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Originally Posted by bitwiser
(Post 3299511)
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. If we're worried about our health care premiums rising because of those anti vaxxers, I think it's about time we force everyone else making all these bad decisions to pay their fair share!
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Originally Posted by Fr8Master
(Post 3299625)
I would probably incorporate living in the greater Memphis area as a high risk decision as well.
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Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
(Post 3299686)
Yall live in some crap holes too... Like St. Louis, Atlanta, Dallas, New Orleans, Chicago, Washington DC, Baltimore.... Every major city has bad areas of town. None of us live in a crime riddled area of Memphis.
There are plenty of leaders in the medical field and scientific community that are warry of these vaccines however they are being completely silenced and shunned and threatened. Which is usually done when the guys at the top are tyrants. |
Originally Posted by MEMA300
(Post 3299726)
what? There was a mass shooting in base housing yesterday. You have to drive on Bill Morris to get to work, where tons of shootings occur. Your kids drive downtown to do what kids do. You are so seriously brainwashed. Almost comical. Keep digging your hole.
There are plenty of leaders in the medical field and scientific community that are warry of these vaccines however they are being completely silenced and shunned and threatened. Which is usually done when the guys at the top are tyrants. |
Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
(Post 3299456)
1. So I don't pay your insurance costs that can be avoided with a simple shot. The cost of insurance is going to sky rocket over this and we need different risk pools. Delta understands this. If my rates are around the same for next year then I don't care but if they go up $1000 a month to reflect your risk then I do care. In that case you should pay $2000 extra a month and I should pay close to my current rates.
2. So I don't have to do your work when you're sick. Well, like I said, the rates are actually going down next year. We will all pay less. As for your second point. This is precisely what reserve is there for. Fundamentally, it’s a matter of what we are willing to sacrifice some freedoms for. Personally, given the data, COVID vaccines are not the reason. If this were the plague, I’d feel different. But then again, if it were that bad, I believe people would freely choose to protect themselves. |
Vaccine Stance
Originally Posted by Fr8Master
(Post 3299506)
Insurance should be risk based. You live in a hurricane corridor you should pay more for home insurance. You smoke you pay more for life insurance and you should pay more for health insurance.
Apparently the free market is authoritarian. Oh wait, if you don’t want to pay more you can “choose” to quit smoking or you can “choose” to move or you can “choose” to get a shot. I guess it’s all about actuaries measuring risk and people making choices…also known as authoritarianism. Wait a second, maybe freedom of choice is only a good thing when there aren’t financial consequences that I agree with. Exactly! People freely choose to drink, smoke, eat unhealthy, and not exercise. And the free market prices that in. So people should also be able to choose to get vaccinated as well. |
Originally Posted by busdriver12
(Post 3299624)
Perfectly said. It’s extraordinary to me how proud people are of their complete selfishness, wearing it like a badge of honor, spouting out about freedom, so many excuses and rationalizations. I joined the military with a commitment to do what was needed to protect the country, to sacrifice my life if needed, I can’t imagine making such a fuss about a life-saving vaccine already given to billions.
And I am terribly sorry about your families loss. How does an unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk? Isn’t that the point of a vaccine? When you force or coerce someone to inject themselves against their will, by definition, that is not freedom. This is true regardless of whether you wore the uniform or not. |
Originally Posted by Globemaster2827
(Post 3299456)
1. So I don't pay your insurance costs that can be avoided with a simple shot. The cost of insurance is going to sky rocket over this and we need different risk pools. Delta understands this. If my rates are around the same for next year then I don't care but if they go up $1000 a month to reflect your risk then I do care. In that case you should pay $2000 extra a month and I should pay close to my current rates.
2. So I don't have to do your work when you're sick. |
Originally Posted by FXLAX
(Post 3299772)
How does an unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk? Isn’t that the point of a vaccine?
When you force or coerce someone to inject themselves against their will, by definition, that is not freedom. This is true regardless of whether you wore the uniform or not. I’m not supportive of government mandated vaccines, especially while the paranoia that causes pandemic behavior continues to repeat itself. |
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
(Post 3299624)
Perfectly said. It’s extraordinary to me how proud people are of their complete selfishness, wearing it like a badge of honor, spouting out about freedom, so many excuses and rationalizations. I joined the military with a commitment to do what was needed to protect the country, to sacrifice my life if needed, I can’t imagine making such a fuss about a life-saving vaccine already given to billions.
It is experimental gene therapy. Period! Every day more info comes out on how the numbers were exaggerated to cause mass fear. Now the FDA just granted the new FDA-approved vaccines protection from lawsuits. This has never happened before. When a drug is approved, it is deemed safe and therefore it is open to litigation if someone suffers a harmful side effect. Not this drug. Get the shot and develop one of the many FAA grounding side effects, suck it up. Come on save the world, join the experiment and save the .05% that are at risk. Again, please explain to me how the non-vaxed are killing the vaxed? It is more truthful to say that the variants are coming from the vaccinated. The unvaxed get the virus and their immune system either kills it, or they die. The vaccinated get the virus and their immune system was trained to ignore the symptoms and stop the body's response to the virus. The virus is then free to grow and mutate. Come on guys, you got a shot and you don't even understand how it works. That is why the vaccinated still must wear a mask, and physically distance, and all the other protocols. Hospitals in my state are still laying off workers due to lack of need. |
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