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Globemaster2827 09-24-2021 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by bitwiser (Post 3299511)
Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. If we're worried about our health care premiums rising because of those anti vaxxers, I think it's about time we force everyone else making all these bad decisions to pay their fair share!

Ok... I'll pay $25 more a month because I drink. You'll pay $3000 a month more because you're terrified of a shot (and probably $25 a month for the drinking). Get the point?

Globemaster2827 09-24-2021 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by Fr8Master (Post 3299625)
I would probably incorporate living in the greater Memphis area as a high risk decision as well.

Yall live in some crap holes too... Like St. Louis, Atlanta, Dallas, New Orleans, Chicago, Washington DC, Baltimore.... Every major city has bad areas of town. None of us live in a crime riddled area of Memphis.

MEMA300 09-24-2021 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 3299686)
Yall live in some crap holes too... Like St. Louis, Atlanta, Dallas, New Orleans, Chicago, Washington DC, Baltimore.... Every major city has bad areas of town. None of us live in a crime riddled area of Memphis.

what? There was a mass shooting in base housing yesterday. You have to drive on Bill Morris to get to work, where tons of shootings occur. Your kids drive downtown to do what kids do. You are so seriously brainwashed. Almost comical. Keep digging your hole.

There are plenty of leaders in the medical field and scientific community that are warry of these vaccines however they are being completely silenced and shunned and threatened. Which is usually done when the guys at the top are tyrants.

Globemaster2827 09-24-2021 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 3299726)
what? There was a mass shooting in base housing yesterday. You have to drive on Bill Morris to get to work, where tons of shootings occur. Your kids drive downtown to do what kids do. You are so seriously brainwashed. Almost comical. Keep digging your hole.

There are plenty of leaders in the medical field and scientific community that are warry of these vaccines however they are being completely silenced and shunned and threatened. Which is usually done when the guys at the top are tyrants.

There are mass shootings all over the country but I don't live in Base housing.... I wanted to move further out because Collierville is over priced.

FXLAX 09-24-2021 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 3299456)
1. So I don't pay your insurance costs that can be avoided with a simple shot. The cost of insurance is going to sky rocket over this and we need different risk pools. Delta understands this. If my rates are around the same for next year then I don't care but if they go up $1000 a month to reflect your risk then I do care. In that case you should pay $2000 extra a month and I should pay close to my current rates.
2. So I don't have to do your work when you're sick.


Well, like I said, the rates are actually going down next year. We will all pay less. As for your second point. This is precisely what reserve is there for.

Fundamentally, it’s a matter of what we are willing to sacrifice some freedoms for. Personally, given the data, COVID vaccines are not the reason. If this were the plague, I’d feel different. But then again, if it were that bad, I believe people would freely choose to protect themselves.

FXLAX 09-24-2021 08:33 AM

Vaccine Stance
 

Originally Posted by Fr8Master (Post 3299506)
Insurance should be risk based. You live in a hurricane corridor you should pay more for home insurance. You smoke you pay more for life insurance and you should pay more for health insurance.

Apparently the free market is authoritarian. Oh wait, if you don’t want to pay more you can “choose” to quit smoking or you can “choose” to move or you can “choose” to get a shot. I guess it’s all about actuaries measuring risk and people making choices…also known as authoritarianism.

Wait a second, maybe freedom of choice is only a good thing when there aren’t financial consequences that I agree with.


Exactly! People freely choose to drink, smoke, eat unhealthy, and not exercise. And the free market prices that in. So people should also be able to choose to get vaccinated as well.

FXLAX 09-24-2021 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 3299624)
Perfectly said. It’s extraordinary to me how proud people are of their complete selfishness, wearing it like a badge of honor, spouting out about freedom, so many excuses and rationalizations. I joined the military with a commitment to do what was needed to protect the country, to sacrifice my life if needed, I can’t imagine making such a fuss about a life-saving vaccine already given to billions.

And I am terribly sorry about your families loss.


How does an unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk? Isn’t that the point of a vaccine?

When you force or coerce someone to inject themselves against their will, by definition, that is not freedom. This is true regardless of whether you wore the uniform or not.

FrankTheTank 09-24-2021 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 3299456)
1. So I don't pay your insurance costs that can be avoided with a simple shot. The cost of insurance is going to sky rocket over this and we need different risk pools. Delta understands this. If my rates are around the same for next year then I don't care but if they go up $1000 a month to reflect your risk then I do care. In that case you should pay $2000 extra a month and I should pay close to my current rates.
2. So I don't have to do your work when you're sick.

Honest question, should the insurance premium be higher for a Type 2 diabetic? Should he/she pay more than me? Why should I pay the same?

busdriver12 09-24-2021 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 3299772)
How does an unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk? Isn’t that the point of a vaccine?

When you force or coerce someone to inject themselves against their will, by definition, that is not freedom. This is true regardless of whether you wore the uniform or not.

An unvaccinated person puts at risk those who cannot be vaccinated, like children and those with health conditions that preclude vaccination. Helpless elderly people whose caretakers decided not to vaccinate them. People who have weak immune systems that the vaccine did not work well for, people whose immunity from the vaccine has waned over time. People who need to go to the hospital or ICU for something else, who have to compete for care, or get substandard care. Those of us who want this Covid mess to be over and done with, not prolonged for years.

I’m not supportive of government mandated vaccines, especially while the paranoia that causes pandemic behavior continues to repeat itself.

BertMacklinFBI 09-24-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 3299624)
Perfectly said. It’s extraordinary to me how proud people are of their complete selfishness, wearing it like a badge of honor, spouting out about freedom, so many excuses and rationalizations. I joined the military with a commitment to do what was needed to protect the country, to sacrifice my life if needed, I can’t imagine making such a fuss about a life-saving vaccine already given to billions.

It is experimental gene therapy. Period! Every day more info comes out on how the numbers were exaggerated to cause mass fear. Now the FDA just granted the new FDA-approved vaccines protection from lawsuits. This has never happened before. When a drug is approved, it is deemed safe and therefore it is open to litigation if someone suffers a harmful side effect. Not this drug. Get the shot and develop one of the many FAA grounding side effects, suck it up. Come on save the world, join the experiment and save the .05% that are at risk.

Again, please explain to me how the non-vaxed are killing the vaxed? It is more truthful to say that the variants are coming from the vaccinated. The unvaxed get the virus and their immune system either kills it, or they die. The vaccinated get the virus and their immune system was trained to ignore the symptoms and stop the body's response to the virus. The virus is then free to grow and mutate. Come on guys, you got a shot and you don't even understand how it works. That is why the vaccinated still must wear a mask, and physically distance, and all the other protocols. Hospitals in my state are still laying off workers due to lack of need.

I can’t wait to see how sorry you are you didn’t get the vaccine in 15 years when the other half of us have super powers. We will be off flying around and turning into the hulk and what not. While you sit there and cry into your cereal.


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