That 0.2% of the population that has died has had the ultimate liberty taken away from them, their very survival.

But I’m not in favor of vaccine mandates at all. Part of the misfortune of Covid times is that many people are now used to getting paid for not working, or barely working at all. We certainly don’t need to add more people to the unemployment and Medicaid list, particularly with a worker shortage. Definitely don’t want those who are working to join those now staying at home.

Similar viral loads. The ideal your trying to grasp is similar. Not higher. But keep cherry picking the science you want to believe in, Meat Fighter. I don’t care vax or no vax. But at least speak some truths that are widely accepted.

Here are some more numbers for you to dispute. A few Minnesota hospitals released the percentage of hospitalized with and without vaccine and amount needing ICU. News flash. Of those hospitalized. It was the unvaxxed that took the cake.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/bringme...d-unvaccinated

Just take a peek at the pictorials credited to the institutions. I’m sure the source is not good enough for you…it was the first I could find with the pictorials, but the pictorials are from the hospitals. Pictures are easy to understand. Good luck! If you wanna bash the hospitals reports which you likely will. Fire away I guess?

Not going to disagree with the data or pictures. But I would ask a few questions.

1. How many of the designated unvaxxed have had one shot or are within two weeks of their second shot?

2. Why is there such a disparity between this data set and other countries like Israel or Singapore or Gibraltor or even states like Vermont that have a much higher vaccination rate?

That being said, back to my original point. What is the predicate for mandating a treatment that does prevent transmission?

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1. Does it matter? They are not yet considered “vaccinated” till after 2 weeks. Or maybe you mean sick from the shot? But still don’t think you test positive from the shot.

2. I haven’t the time nor the care to investigate every country. I just provided some close to home info. But running through the googles. Singapore not overly concerned because of low amount of serious cases. Due to vaccine.

people have their opinions. A random internet dude isn’t gonna change yours. Good luck out there. I seriously hope you’re wielding dual tomahawk ribeyes. Or maybe one tomahawk and one sausage links? Your screen name brings me joy.

Source?

That sounds like some FNC talking point if you ask me.

Source for what? That it doesn't prevent transmission?

https://www.cdc.gov/media/rele.../20...-covid-19.html

What is the predicate for forcing others to get vaccinated if it doesn't prevent transmission? In other words, if the vaccinated or unvaccinated can infect others then what's the rationale for forcing people to get injected to prevent infecting others?

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Just stop for a minute and listen closely:

1)A vaccinated person is far less likely to catch COVID than an unvaccinated person.

2)So while an infected vaccinated person can also spread COVID, they (the vaccinated person) is far less likely to have ever caught COVID in the first place.

So what can we deduce from this? Simple - vaccinated people are less likely to catch and spread COVID compared to unvaccinated people.

More importantly, governments across the world will soon require anyone (yes, even American FedEx pilots!) to have been vaccinated before they can enter the country. We also have verbiage in our contract that says YOU have to have all necessary vaccinations as part of your employment. You anti-vaccine nut jobs are on borrowed time, and will soon have to either get vaccinated or leave/get terminated. I predict most of you will fold and get vaccinated, as you aren’t going to quit your million dollar career over something so stupid.

Source for the claim that vaccinated people have a “higher viral load”?

All I can find is similar viral load.

There is no source, because he's posting false information. Infraction issued.

Thanks for doing that! Seriously, it’s time we stop this nonsense and I’m glad you guys are on top of it.