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Globemaster2827 11-04-2021 11:49 AM

Looks like the OSHA rules will kick in on January 4rth now instead of early December. I'm wondering what our plan is going to be and I wish Management would let us know now so those who are unvaccinated can make plans.

OSHA vaccine mandate to hit large employers Jan. 4, with hefty fines for noncompliance | Fox Business

Globemaster2827 11-04-2021 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by Tokyo (Post 3317760)
About to see a huge spike in vaccinations on the 777 due to SYD.

That was a very interesting FCIF. I don't understand how someone could be so terrified of a shot that they'd willingly put themselves through that, but I have at least one buddy who's going through a ton of pain just to avoid the vaccine. I'm expecting things to get much more restrictive than even that over time though... Especially internationally where everyone has been more aggressive about fighting Covid 19.

DR K 11-04-2021 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by DR K (Post 3295714)
9/15/21 - Since all of you fascists are emphatically declaring this a moral issue by stating that the unvaccinated could "kill you" or others, your employer is de facto immoral, reckless, and deadly by not mandating the vaccine to protect you and their other employees.

If you had actual moral compasses or backbones, you would have already submitted your resignation letter in a disgusted response to your immoral employer's vaccine mandate inaction and found another job. There are several airlines that require vaccinations in this situation which would be a better fit for your ideologies concerning informed medical consent in the USA.

Until you do tender your resignations, either your greed surpasses your morals or you are liars/psychopaths/sociopaths and you can keep typing until the cows come home since you have no credibility. I'd bet three year's worth of well-stacked pancakes that none of you resigns in protest to your employer's despicable lack of action. (feel free to insert any of the other descriptors you have used like disgusting, conspiratorial, selfish, etc)

Either way, I wouldn't be able to live with myself in your current situation since your morals are easily purchased by the pay and benefits provided by your employer. Happy job hunting, DR K



Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 (Post 3295792)
I predict this post will age poorly. I give it a month...

By the way... Who all is ready for open enrollment next month?

Hope you had a great open enrollment and get lots of gift cards for all the booster shots in the coming year!

Guess this post is is aging nicely after all, and for at least 4 months eh champ? Any other important predictions you have?

I still can't believe that you and others who went from "2 weeks to flatten the curve" to "3 jabs or your job" would continue to work for an employer who is actively lobbying the government to make the vax optional. It must be a struggle living against what your conscience tells you is right. That is a problem that the deadly unvaxed DON'T have.

You can tell what a man really believes by following his actions, and you and the other fascists who haven't left for UA and their 99.9% vaxed work environment appear to be all about the money vs. protecting your families against deadly unvaxed co-workers. Have you done the risk/rewards on this decision to stay in harm's way when there is a safer place to go? Is it really worth the money to be around unvaxed co-workers when there is an employer out there that requires the vax? You have a very different work and life philosophy than your current company's board of directors, owner, and management. Maybe it's time to dust off the resume and turn towards safer skies. Do it for your family. It's an act of love. Life is too short to work in close quarters with dangerous covid transmitting imbeciles who chant "muh freedom" or "faith" or any other stupid ideology who can do damage to you and your fully vaxed family.

Or just keep cashing those checks and your conscience will stay more locked up than a Fauci thanksgiving - either way, thank God you have the freedom to choose. (insert whatever term fits better for freedom, since that term has been removed by other "precedents")

And unlike your disdain for the deadly unvaxed and hope for their banishment, marginalization, and loss of the ability to provide for their family, I earnestly hope you end up somewhere that is a good fit for you and your family and that you finish your career with a peaceful conscience (or whatever term you choose to insert there that is non-offensive to you). It is muh wish for you. Godspeed. (or insert whatever term there that is non-offensive to you)

Meat Fighter 11-04-2021 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by DR K (Post 3318568)
Hope you had a great open enrollment and get lots of gift cards for all the booster shots in the coming year!



Guess this post is is aging nicely after all, and for at least 4 months eh champ? Any other important predictions you have?



I still can't believe that you and others who went from "2 weeks to flatten the curve" to "3 jabs or your job" would continue to work for an employer who is actively lobbying the government to make the vax optional. It must be a struggle living against what your conscience tells you is right. That is a problem that the deadly unvaxed DON'T have.



You can tell what a man really believes by following his actions, and you and the other fascists who haven't left for UA and their 99.9% vaxed work environment appear to be all about the money vs. protecting your families against deadly unvaxed co-workers. Have you done the risk/rewards on this decision to stay in harm's way when there is a safer place to go? Is it really worth the money to be around unvaxed co-workers when there is an employer out there that requires the vax? You have a very different work and life philosophy than your current company's board of directors, owner, and management. Maybe it's time to dust off the resume and turn towards safer skies. Do it for your family. It's an act of love. Life is too short to work in close quarters with dangerous covid transmitting imbeciles who chant "muh freedom" or "faith" or any other stupid ideology who can do damage to you and your fully vaxed family.



Or just keep cashing those checks and your conscience will stay more locked up than a Fauci thanksgiving - either way, thank God you have the freedom to choose. (insert whatever term fits better for freedom, since that term has been removed by other "precedents")



And unlike your disdain for the deadly unvaxed and hope for their banishment, marginalization, and loss of the ability to provide for their family, I earnestly hope you end up somewhere that is a good fit for you and your family and that you finish your career with a peaceful conscience (or whatever term you choose to insert there that is non-offensive to you). It is muh wish for you. Godspeed. (or insert whatever term there that is non-offensive to you)

Bravo sir. Well said.

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Globemaster2827 11-04-2021 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by DR K (Post 3318568)
Hope you had a great open enrollment and get lots of gift cards for all the booster shots in the coming year!

Guess this post is is aging nicely after all, and for at least 4 months eh champ? Any other important predictions you have?

I still can't believe that you and others who went from "2 weeks to flatten the curve" to "3 jabs or your job" would continue to work for an employer who is actively lobbying the government to make the vax optional. It must be a struggle living against what your conscience tells you is right. That is a problem that the deadly unvaxed DON'T have.

You can tell what a man really believes by following his actions, and you and the other fascists who haven't left for UA and their 99.9% vaxed work environment appear to be all about the money vs. protecting your families against deadly unvaxed co-workers. Have you done the risk/rewards on this decision to stay in harm's way when there is a safer place to go? Is it really worth the money to be around unvaxed co-workers when there is an employer out there that requires the vax? You have a very different work and life philosophy than your current company's board of directors, owner, and management. Maybe it's time to dust off the resume and turn towards safer skies. Do it for your family. It's an act of love. Life is too short to work in close quarters with dangerous covid transmitting imbeciles who chant "muh freedom" or "faith" or any other stupid ideology who can do damage to you and your fully vaxed family.

Or just keep cashing those checks and your conscience will stay more locked up than a Fauci thanksgiving - either way, thank God you have the freedom to choose. (insert whatever term fits better for freedom, since that term has been removed by other "precedents")

And unlike your disdain for the deadly unvaxed and hope for their banishment, marginalization, and loss of the ability to provide for their family, I earnestly hope you end up somewhere that is a good fit for you and your family and that you finish your career with a peaceful conscience (or whatever term you choose to insert there that is non-offensive to you). It is muh wish for you. Godspeed. (or insert whatever term there that is non-offensive to you)

The funny thing about your rant is the article that I posted above that states that FedEx has until January 4th to make sure you are fully vaccinated or they'll be on the business end of a $14,000 fine for just you. There is a once a week testing option that FedEx might qualify for depending on whether or not we're viewed as a government contractor. These things have repeatedly held up in court according to the document ALPA legal is posting on our own Union's website. In addition to that foreign countries keep restricting what the unvaccinated can do in their countries. Keep running your mouth. I'll be here when you say you're quitting over it... I'll also be here when you call everyone a Nazi for forcing you to get it. I'll be here when you realize the world isn't ending and move on to some other topic... In the meantime it might help to lay off the Qanon. It's not good for your mental health. I hope the jumpseat back from DFW went well.

NobodyLikesMe 11-04-2021 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by DR K (Post 3318568)
Hope you had a great open enrollment and get lots of gift cards for all the booster shots in the coming year!

Guess this post is is aging nicely after all, and for at least 4 months eh champ? Any other important predictions you have?

I still can't believe that you and others who went from "2 weeks to flatten the curve" to "3 jabs or your job" would continue to work for an employer who is actively lobbying the government to make the vax optional. It must be a struggle living against what your conscience tells you is right. That is a problem that the deadly unvaxed DON'T have.

You can tell what a man really believes by following his actions, and you and the other fascists who haven't left for UA and their 99.9% vaxed work environment appear to be all about the money vs. protecting your families against deadly unvaxed co-workers. Have you done the risk/rewards on this decision to stay in harm's way when there is a safer place to go? Is it really worth the money to be around unvaxed co-workers when there is an employer out there that requires the vax? You have a very different work and life philosophy than your current company's board of directors, owner, and management. Maybe it's time to dust off the resume and turn towards safer skies. Do it for your family. It's an act of love. Life is too short to work in close quarters with dangerous covid transmitting imbeciles who chant "muh freedom" or "faith" or any other stupid ideology who can do damage to you and your fully vaxed family.

Or just keep cashing those checks and your conscience will stay more locked up than a Fauci thanksgiving - either way, thank God you have the freedom to choose. (insert whatever term fits better for freedom, since that term has been removed by other "precedents")

And unlike your disdain for the deadly unvaxed and hope for their banishment, marginalization, and loss of the ability to provide for their family, I earnestly hope you end up somewhere that is a good fit for you and your family and that you finish your career with a peaceful conscience (or whatever term you choose to insert there that is non-offensive to you). It is muh wish for you. Godspeed. (or insert whatever term there that is non-offensive to you)

Excellent Post. God Bless You

Fr8Master 11-04-2021 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by DR K;[url=tel:3318568
3318568[/url]]Hope you had a great open enrollment and get lots of gift cards for all the booster shots in the coming year!

Guess this post is is aging nicely after all, and for at least 4 months eh champ? Any other important predictions you have?

I still can't believe that you and others who went from "2 weeks to flatten the curve" to "3 jabs or your job" would continue to work for an employer who is actively lobbying the government to make the vax optional. It must be a struggle living against what your conscience tells you is right. That is a problem that the deadly unvaxed DON'T have.

You can tell what a man really believes by following his actions, and you and the other fascists who haven't left for UA and their 99.9% vaxed work environment appear to be all about the money vs. protecting your families against deadly unvaxed co-workers. Have you done the risk/rewards on this decision to stay in harm's way when there is a safer place to go? Is it really worth the money to be around unvaxed co-workers when there is an employer out there that requires the vax? You have a very different work and life philosophy than your current company's board of directors, owner, and management. Maybe it's time to dust off the resume and turn towards safer skies. Do it for your family. It's an act of love. Life is too short to work in close quarters with dangerous covid transmitting imbeciles who chant "muh freedom" or "faith" or any other stupid ideology who can do damage to you and your fully vaxed family.

Or just keep cashing those checks and your conscience will stay more locked up than a Fauci thanksgiving - either way, thank God you have the freedom to choose. (insert whatever term fits better for freedom, since that term has been removed by other "precedents")

And unlike your disdain for the deadly unvaxed and hope for their banishment, marginalization, and loss of the ability to provide for their family, I earnestly hope you end up somewhere that is a good fit for you and your family and that you finish your career with a peaceful conscience (or whatever term you choose to insert there that is non-offensive to you). It is muh wish for you. Godspeed. (or insert whatever term there that is non-offensive to you)

I think the shots are 100% covered, so gift cards likely won’t be necessary.

I get that y’all had an argument, but digging up an old post simply so you can claim you were right isn’t a good look.

The guidance released today implies we will be requiring testing or the vaccine, so to me this looks a bit like a self own.


Before you meltdown and attack me, I believe the vaccine is a good thing to get based on what my doctor and my friends that are doctors told me…however I do understand people not being pro mandate. I haven’t decided if I am for the mandate or not to be honest, both sides have compelling arguments.

Most importantly, it’s probably time to chill. I don’t think anyone is changing anyone else’s mind here. Our country needs people to chill out and stop hating on each other. Y’all both like airplanes, maybe talk about that instead.

nitefr8dog 11-05-2021 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by Fr8Master (Post 3318715)
I think the shots are 100% covered, so gift cards likely won’t be necessary.

I get that y’all had an argument, but digging up an old post simply so you can claim you were right isn’t a good look.

The guidance released today implies we will be requiring testing or the vaccine, so to me this looks a bit like a self own.


Before you meltdown and attack me, I believe the vaccine is a good thing to get based on what my doctor and my friends that are doctors told me…however I do understand people not being pro mandate. I haven’t decided if I am for the mandate or not to be honest, both sides have compelling arguments.

Most importantly, it’s probably time to chill. I don’t think anyone is changing anyone else’s mind here. Our country needs people to chill out and stop hating on each other. Y’all both like airplanes, maybe talk about that instead.

That's no fun....this was just getting interesting.

fishn 11-05-2021 06:50 AM

Please research the adverse reaction of Tinnitus. 30-ish days after my fauci ouchie I developed and have had it for the past two weeks. This has occurred with all the brands not just the one I’ve taken. It’s a more rare reaction but it’s real and it could affect your future 1st class medical. How on earth any pilot could support a inoculation (it’s not a vaccine) that has so many potential adverse side effects that could affect your career is beyond me. This isn’t your average flu shot or proven vaccine it’s a new type of inoculation without long term data and potentially serious side effects.

I'm praying it resolves but what if said employer requires the booster jab for job? Are you willing to put your medical and career on the line over and over again? Not me. I’ll file medical/religious exemptions, take leave of absence, or find a place that won’t put me in a position where I have to choose.

This should be a choice you get to make not a mandate. If you feel it’s right for you, take it. If you have concerns about the side effects then you should have the choice to not take it without fear of losing a way to provide for your family.

DR K 11-05-2021 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Fr8Master (Post 3318715)
I think the shots are 100% covered, so gift cards likely won’t..

Gift cards like swag for the year for getting flu shots and taking smoking cessation class. There is no doubt the shots are covered and pushed like candy on Halloween.


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