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pinseeker 12-17-2021 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3337355)
Im sure none. He is a known troll. Accusing everyone of nefarious intentions when he himself fits that bill. I have been told who he is and he is a known character. He knows better than anyone. Just ask him and he will tell you such.


Please, tell me who you think I am! I unblocked you for a time to see if you would answer how you know who is picking trips up at draft and AVA by watching open time since only management has access to the pay code for the trip. Still waiting for the answer.

The Walrus 12-17-2021 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3337554)
Please, tell me who you think I am!

You're a bowler?

FXLAX 12-17-2021 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3337552)
What "accusations" are you referring to? Let me know what you have questions about and I will answer.


Oh how quickly do we forget?


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3336680)
Right now, we have the NC chairman with his hand on the rudder, telling the MEC where they want to go. The MEC is complicit…


FXLAX 12-17-2021 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by dckozak (Post 3337471)
To point out the obvious, Fedex pilots are the only unionized group, at least in the USA, this gives an even great incentive to the company to ensure that we, the black sheep of Fedex employees, do not win at the table what the company can (convince) the rest of the non union team, we could have had without a collectively bargained agreement.

I know I’m guilty of it many times but this is a run on sentence that I can’t easily decipher without making assumptions of what you might be trying to say in context of the rest of your post. But can you explain this again in a different way? We are the only union in the US that what? TIA

pinseeker 12-17-2021 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 3337569)
Oh how quickly do we forget?


Well, the MEC chairman stated that the NC chairman was free to negotiate what he thought was best for retirement. This was said in a PUB meeting in July. If you don't believe me, ask your rep if they told the NC how they had to proceed with regards to retirement. Believe what you want.

Noworkallplay 12-17-2021 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3337575)
Well, the MEC chairman stated that the NC chairman was free to negotiate what he thought was best for retirement. This was said in a PUB meeting in July. If you don't believe me, ask your rep if they told the NC how they had to proceed with regards to retirement. Believe what you want.

BS. I was on that call and that was never said. He said they needed all tools. Never said it was open to anything. They further said they know we the pilots want to keep our A and B mix. Your posts are rooted in divisiveness and deceit.

The Walrus 12-17-2021 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3337661)
BS. I was on that call and that was never said. He said they needed all tools. Never said it was open to anything. They further said they know we the pilots want to keep our A and B mix. Your posts are rooted in divisiveness and deceit.

Do you tape the zoom calls by chance ?

pinseeker 12-18-2021 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 3337661)
BS. I was on that call and that was never said. He said they needed all tools. Never said it was open to anything. They further said they know we the pilots want to keep our A and B mix. Your posts are rooted in divisiveness and deceit.


Yeah, of course you were.;) Then you know that the question that was asked was something like "when will the MEC vote on our retirement proposal to send to the company?" Again, the answer was something like "The openers were the proposal and the NC has the latitude to pursue the path they think is best." So who is steering the retirement ship? The MEC voted to include industry leading rates of pay in the openers, not industry leading compensation. They can be specific on that, but when it comes to improving our A plan, they are passing the buck.

Still waiting on your answer about how you know that a trip is picked up at AVA or draft over OTP, M/U, or some other code?

HvypurplePylot 12-18-2021 02:24 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 3337554)
Please, tell me who you think I am! I unblocked you for a time to see if you would answer how you know who is picking trips up at draft and AVA by watching open time since only management has access to the pay code for the trip. Still waiting for the answer.

it’s actually fairly easy to do. For AVA a lot of times right after the AVA 7 day window opens those trips get picked up. I mean sure someone could all the sudden pick up a trip at exactly 7 days at straight time. The other thing is inside the assignment window a trip goes to closed time and that persons calendar doesn’t have reserve or a sub bar. CRS will also sometimes put a REL bar leading up to a trip on someone that doesn’t sit reserve.

Noworkallplay 12-18-2021 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot (Post 3337749)
it’s actually fairly easy to do. For AVA a lot of times right after the AVA 7 day window opens those trips get picked up. I mean sure someone could all the sudden pick up a trip at exactly 7 days at straight time. The other thing is inside the assignment window a trip goes to closed time and that persons calendar doesn’t have reserve or a sub bar. CRS will also sometimes put a REL bar leading up to a trip on someone that doesn’t sit reserve.


DIND DING DING DING……. We have a winner. Or just look at that pilots calendar if it not blocked due to the embarrassment they would face when called out.


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