Other ALPA airlines have forums on their union websites. At a previous airline, it was a pretty active place where we could say whatever was on our minds without fear of public scrutiny. DEAR FDX ALPA, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A FEDEX PILOT FORUM WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS PRIVATE MATTERS IN PRIVATE?

While I understand your sentiments, I advise everyone that NOTHING is ever private. Even airlines have pulled “secure” WhatsApp, ALPA and APC forums as part of ‘discovery’ during lawsuits and trials. I’m a ALPA guy, not at your company, but still just want to warn everyone, they are watching. F & H and your company have people who comb these post daily, cross check names with other emails, IP addressed and anything they can. Don’t ever post anything that you don’t want to see in a trial is my advice.

Nothing is private. Even “van” talk has shown up in courtrooms, so just be cautious.

I, too, came from an airline that had a forum on its union website. It was anything BUT private and secure (or friendly or courteous, but I digress)! There were many pilots who liked to produce screenshots for management. As others have stated, NOTHING is private.

Except phone trees. They worked great. We should bring them back.....

Surely you can’t be serious.

These forums are probably the WORST place to have these discussions.

Everyone needs to get past emotions. Let the NC post the TA and then vote. Its that simple. We should be ready to vote down several TA's to get what we deserve. Its pretty obvious the NC isn't going to be close on what the pilot group wanted. The company is finally feeling the squeeze for the first time in 40yrs. They will offer up contract after contract until we get what we want. Being close to our goals is NOT meeting our goals. Get ready for more maneuvering on the company's part to sell us short.

I'm not talking about a nuts and bolts discussion about details, privileged information or the like. I'm just surprised it didn't cause an uptick in a general sentiment of frustration or being fed-up.

And don't call me Shirley.

there’s plenty of conversation happening in the other venue.

Ford and Harrison really? Living in past much? They are not involved in this negotiation at all. company is using exactly zero outside help.

Well said…