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Does it help us or hurt us when guys flex screenshots of their obscenely large paychecks on Instagram?

Please Please tell me no one actually does this !!!!

I wouldn’t doubt that some are actually that stupid. There was a Piedmont guy/influencer who actually trashed the UAL 777 single engine crew on YouTube. Daddy just got him hired at AA while other more qualified candidates still are waiting.

Starting to see more of that influencer vibe from some of the new hires here. There's a time and a place for all that. At work isn't it. I believe we had a new hire recently that was filmed getting a cannon spray before leaving a regional......:confused:

As usual with such things, your instincts to hate on the new guys are wrong. The offending individual in this case is a senior 777 captain.

That would be correct. He’s former PSA, Embry-Riddle rat. The guy legitimately had the flight delayed for a spray down, then announced to the passengers about his newest endeavor. I’m sure the passengers gave a **** and weren’t concerned one bit about making their connections.

I wouldn’t be too concerned. They’re popping up everywhere now. We have our fair share at UAL.

Incorrect. I'm aware of that CA. I'm talking about a new hire. Don't act like this is something that's new. It will have to be addressed in a professional manner as we welcome a total of four separate generations to the FedEx flight decks.

I want to go on record as saying this was not me. Anyone who posts their paycheck in a public forum is not thinking straight. Not a good idea. In fact, a really bad idea for lots of reasons, including making the rest of us look bad to our peers and outsiders.

I'd say it definitely helps the company recruit pilots. Who wouldn't want to fly with a guy like that? Must be the most humble dude ever. The paychecks are only an added bonus right?

Hurts the pilot group for sure though, and makes us all look awful.

The newhire influencers aren't a good look either.

we’ve got a 200,000 number captain that’s posting stuff like crazy on instagram, but hey let’s eat out young.

There's nothing wrong with eating out. How else do you get food on a layover?

I think it's safe to say that the social media garbage trends young. Hey, fake lives matter.

There's no such thing as "obscenely large" paychecks. We work for it.

Second, Mark.ifly knows he shouldn't be posting his paychecks and bragging about his pay. That's why he made his account private now.

Social media has made it easy for people to display their narcissism.

^^^^^^^Gods honest truth^^^^^^^ People posting their best side to feel better about themselves and worse yet a few do it attempting to make you feel like xxxx about yours. Not too bad in our industry as we know the real from the unreal and most are doing well, but looking around at the rest of the world it’s rather tragic.

*Good thing I am great looking. Guess I need a Facebook account, instagram and learn how to tweet cuz I am not capitalizing on my hood rat wad of $1 bills. Kidding about my good looks of course as I am quite ugly, but no joke about lack of media accounts or the $1 bills.

So let me get this straight. We have a relatively senior captain on our list who posted a screen shot of his paycheck on social media just to impress his fan boy followers? And another kid who ordered a water gun salute at his regional? Good lord what is happening right now.

I heard about that as well. Apparently he was good friends with some gate agents and they were the ones that coordinated the spray. If he made a PA after the fact that would lead me to believe he did ask for the spray/attention. I think the former is more likely though.

The Piedmont CA that bashed the UAL 777 crew needs an attitude adjustment...

You really think the entire spray down would be on video if wasn’t planned? The guy had someone in the back ready to film the entire event just so he could post it on his Instagram.

It’s also my understanding he was friends with the ground crew who coordinated the spray down with ramp control.

What do you mean?? You mean the hired outside the flow AA FO? eyeroll...... What a piece of work.

The post was pretty cringey, but is making $146k in two weeks actually possible??

Yes, when you are bumped for IOE and pick up draft, with an extension at 200%

Edit: Should have clarified, yes in a Month you can. Not in two weeks.

In two weeks, I don't think so. A month, definitely. And it isn't normal. A particular set of events had to happen.

draft extensions aren’t paid at 200%.

As I stated the water gun kid did not request it! I know the guy personally. The kid is 100 percent solid character, loves aviation, understands the history of the salute and has zero interest in breaking tradition.

He was very well liked at the old company and the agents did that. If you ever get to meet him or fly with him it would be obvious that he is the type of person that has not an ounce of aloofness or arrogance. Stand up young man he is.

Didn’t happen like you say. I know for a fact it was a joke, not a smart one, obviously, but a joke nonetheless. It was actually a photoshopped pay stub someone had sent him some time ago, also as a joke. It was posted in response to a well known Wolf of Wall Street video about 70K paychecks. He took it down after about two minutes as he realized some might not see it as the joke intended. And he was correct, as the meme makers and Instagram haters jumped on it. He made his account private as the Instagram/meme haters were also stealing his other pics for memes. Through his account, he has positively promoted FedEx and the pilot group more than most. Haters gonna hate. Get a grip and worry about more important stuff. 😏

OK, what are they paid at?

I thought any trip that was extended paid 150% for the first 12 credit hours and then 200% for the remaining hours until finished.

Is it different for a draft trip?

Just curious as to how these people are getting these obscenely huge paychecks.

Getting mad at stuff is addictive, you know.

Incorrect. Read 4.BB.7. After an additional 12 CH it's 200% Happens all the time on the MD and 777 since the CBA allows an extension of 36 hours domestically and 84 hours international.
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Without an actual example to point to, this would be my best guess how it was done. Volunteer for a quick trip to Asia, preferably China. After you arrive, call schedules and tell them you are open to a field extension without limitations. Stay out of town until someone makes you come home. Not sure it would still work, the 6 week trip talked about last year would of happened in early COVID 2020 when there was a huge increase in open time and China quickly became unpopular with many pilots. When things have been tight, Fedex has been a great place for someone without a life to go hide and get materially rich. Wife and pool boy are very appreciative.

Thanks for correcting me, while a draft trip that is extended pays 200% after 12 ch beyond planned completion, the full value of a trip extension is not realized when the trip is held as draft.

When a pilot is extended often, 4.Y.1 comes into play. Each added duty period pays 3:30. When a trip is held on draft, the EDP disruption does not apply.

Additionally, 4.W.(all) do not pay for trips held on draft. This includes, disruption pay for landings, duty period, layover change, crew designation.

Yeah… I’m not buying that revisionist history. I saw his account before he locked it down. Like all these social media addicts he was promoting himself first and foremost, not the pilot group. Thanks anyway.

But beyond the deep insecurities driving such pathetic behavior, are such “jokes” helping the pilot force achieve a better contract and pay rates?

Really winning hearts and minds out there.

Think back to some of the worst guys you ever flew with who have long since retired. You know, the guys whose behavior at the hotels or treatment of staff were abhorrent. Now imagine if they had come along 40 years later and decided to foist their crap on the entire world, representing all of us, via social media. That's where we're at. You used to have to be a douchebag the old-fashioned way, by irritating people one-at-a-time. Now you can do it far more efficiently - and make all of us look bad in the process.

Social media will be the downfall of modern society.

sooo you’re saying social media is the young persons version of APC forums?🤔😋

It changes with time. Just look at fb.

Social media has many pitfalls. The biggest being it allows everyone to be a self described professional on every subject. Add in a pilots type A personality and you have a perfect comedy club setting. All for the public to see. For the majority who just watch (me included) we laugh uncontrollably.

JetFlyers has turned into the laughing stock of our pilot group. The same names constantly pontificating on every subject under the sun. They are experts in every subject. Just ask them. The sad part is they are willing to sign it and own it. If I was management I would run an add campaign against us during negotiations just using stuff posted on JetFlyers and other social media platforms.

I found out about his post from an FO at work and I just shook my head in disbelief. However, a non-flying friend confronted me about it with other friends around, asking if I made that much per month. It was quite uncomfortable. However it happened, a lot of people sure saw his post.

I am. In all subjects except COVID.

I might quote this and hang it up somewhere. Spot on!

I have a buddy who is going to make around $80K in his mid month check. That kind of pay is definitely possible. $146K though? Probably not likely in two weeks.

at FedEx the large paychecks come on the 15th. The overages from draft/AVA/extensions and disruptions (also GPE’s) are all paid on the following month’s 15th paychecks (In addition 1/2 of your current month’s BLG)….
So say a pilot’s 12 day trip extends 10 days… The first 2 days of extension are paid at 150%, the next 8 says are paid at 200%. Throw in there an extra 3.5hr credit for each extra duty period on top of that and those extension days are paying up to 15.5hrs/credit a day… so 8 days averaging say 14hrs= 112hrs+18 (for the first 2 days of the extension) 130hrs all payable on the 15th (plus their 1/2 month BLG say 38). Some guys are conflicting out their whole schedule and drafting/AVA their whole schedule (and having longer extensions) and that is what leads to those massive mid month checks…plus the overages are paid in the month following the end of the trip. So if your trip carries over into the next month than you do not get the paid for those overages until the following month… Any additional overages accrued in the carryover month would then also be added to the totals… Have seen guys that have worked 25-30 days in one long trip… and then take the entire following month off….