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Noworkallplay 04-17-2022 05:10 PM

Do We Deserve A New Contract?
 
Survey style questions/

Have we sent the message to the company as a united pilot force that we deserve a contract? Have we participated? As you fly the line and talk with fellow pilots, would you asses the majority as having traits of those who are fighting to get a contract? As you hear fellow pilots interact, do you feel the majority are sacrificing for the betterment of the group or only thinking about themselves?

magic rat 04-19-2022 04:17 PM

Absolutely not. Most have participated by not flying their line. Nope. Only thinking bout themselves.

Noworkallplay 04-20-2022 04:44 PM

It is becoming clear we don’t have a problem with OUR current contract. Most have made choices to support the current contract by the choices they make.

OUR BIGGEST ENEMY IS AMONGST US! OUR FELLOW PILOTS

Noworkallplay 04-27-2022 07:24 PM

After the Chairmans communication sent out today to ALL pilots let me ask again. Do we deserve a contract?

VSTOLG4 05-04-2022 04:02 PM

Honest questions: How does one tell a new hire without prior airline experience that flying their line is how we get a contact? Won't the NMB or a judge have a problem with that based on status quo? What historical example can one give to that new hire that this methodology has forced a company to the table in the past? thanks.

Dakota 05-04-2022 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by VSTOLG4 (Post 3417114)
Honest questions: How does one tell a new hire without prior airline experience that flying their line is how we get a contact? Won't the NMB or a judge have a problem with that based on status quo? What historical example can one give to that new hire that this methodology has forced a company to the table in the past? thanks.

2015 and MD-11 F/Os. How does someone have a problem with pilots doing their job well?

Merle Haggard 05-04-2022 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by VSTOLG4 (Post 3417114)
Honest questions: How does one tell a new hire without prior airline experience that flying their line is how we get a contact? Won't the NMB or a judge have a problem with that based on status quo? What historical example can one give to that new hire that this methodology has forced a company to the table in the past? thanks.

One says: "In terms of the contract, here is how it has gone down in the past and why it went down that way"

Leave it at that. You've done nothing more than give a little history lesson. Anyone who is open to doing the right thing will be able to extrapolate. Anyone too selfish or stupid to extrapolate was never gonna get it.

Noworkallplay 05-04-2022 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by VSTOLG4 (Post 3417114)
Honest questions: How does one tell a new hire without prior airline experience that flying their line is how we get a contact? Won't the NMB or a judge have a problem with that based on status quo? What historical example can one give to that new hire that this methodology has forced a company to the table in the past? thanks.

Our industry is littered with examples. You have to want to find them. Read Flying The Line 1 and 2 or the podcast. You get it free through ALPA. Ask any experienced airline pilot and they will tell you almost every contract was achieved when the pilots placed pressure on the company.

If you can honestly tell yourself you are applying pressure while being greedy and working against the collective then you may want to assess your integrity.

Moosefire 05-04-2022 09:49 PM

Threads like this are problematic. Move on.

PurpleToolBox 05-05-2022 04:11 PM

WITH OR WITHOUT YOU !!!

Know your history. The company came to the negotiating table with a concessionary / bankruptcy era contract. This is how much management values your commitment to work during a pandemic which has killed millions including several of our coworkers all while making records profits.

FDX Pilot History Timeline

http://fdx.alpa.org/portals/26/docs/...17,%201998.pdf


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