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Old 10-19-2022, 07:29 PM
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How much longer will it be around for? Seems like it keeps shrinking, lots of deadheads, OAK building up…wondering about the future of the west coast bases…sounds off with any ideas!
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Old 10-19-2022, 08:58 PM
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Seventeen point two years
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ANC will eventually be 77 only. OAK will always be 76, and LAX will eventually close or become the new base for whatever new jet we get, or 77, or none of that.
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Old 10-20-2022, 11:03 AM
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Take this with a grain of salt....

LAX is maxed out, and the base was shrinking until March of 2020. COVID kept it alive. ONT has room to grow. In talking with a senior ramp agent there, rumor is there is plans (and blueprints) to double the size of that operation within the next 5 years, so 18 gates total. This is coming from upper management types that have visited the site over the last year. Apparently, FedEx bought up the real estate just to the east of the new facility (where all the abandoned hangars and piles of dirt sit) to stop the encroachment of Amazon's build out there. I have heard whatever replaces the MD-11, may end up there, potentially as a crew base. This timeline could be accelerated if the MX hangar that sits between the parallels at LAX moves to ONT, which has been proposed. The city of Los Angeles would love to get their hands on that real estate, and may make a sweet deal.....

Again, just a fun rumor I have heard while passing thru there!

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Take this with a grain of salt....

LAX is maxed out, and the base was shrinking until March of 2020. COVID kept it alive. ONT has room to grow. In talking with a senior ramp agent there, rumor is there is plans (and blueprints) to double the size of that operation within the next 5 years, so 18 gates total. This is coming from upper management types that have visited the site over the last year. Apparently, FedEx bought up the real estate just to the east of the new facility (where all the abandoned hangars and piles of dirt sit) to stop the encroachment of Amazon's build out there. I have heard whatever replaces the MD-11, may end up there, potentially as a crew base. This timeline could be accelerated if the MX hangar that sits between the parallels at LAX moves to ONT, which has been proposed. The city of Los Angeles would love to get their hands on that real estate, and may make a sweet deal.....

Again, just a fun rumor I have heard while passing thru there!

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I genuinely don’t understand the desire of folks working here that want more domestic bases. I always have been and (presumably) always will be a commuter. Even if I lived in LA I’d rather be Memphis based and do LAX deadheads, enjoy the soft time pay and shaving a day off before/after a week of work.

I think one of the best arrangements at our company is the folks that fly the MD and live in Indy.
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I genuinely don’t understand the desire of folks working here that want more domestic bases. I always have been and (presumably) always will be a commuter. Even if I lived in LA I’d rather be Memphis based and do LAX deadheads, enjoy the soft time pay and shaving a day off before/after a week of work.

I think one of the best arrangements at our company is the folks that fly the MD and live in Indy.

Probably because pilots like you are the exception, living in a specific city and having lines with double deadheads to that same specific city. There is a reason why the overwhelming majority of pilots live in Memphis compared to any other base and especially compared to non-base cities.
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Probably because pilots like you are the exception, living in a specific city and having lines with double deadheads to that same specific city. There is a reason why the overwhelming majority of pilots live in Memphis compared to any other base and especially compared to non-base cities.
More bases = lower trip quality and lower paying trips.

I'd rather commute to higher paying, high quality trips then do the exact same 2-3 legs in and out of my home city for the rest of my career.
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Originally Posted by Moosefire View Post
I genuinely don’t understand the desire of folks working here that want more domestic bases. I always have been and (presumably) always will be a commuter. Even if I lived in LA I’d rather be Memphis based and do LAX deadheads, enjoy the soft time pay and shaving a day off before/after a week of work.

I think one of the best arrangements at our company is the folks that fly the MD and live in Indy.
I think your MD logic can be extended to nearly all fleets. Every fleet is represented in IND with deadheads. Want to fly the 76? Either go directly to the smaller IND bidpack, or bid time until MEM bidpack can hold IND DHs and then find balance there.
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More bases = lower trip quality and lower paying trips.

I'd rather commute to higher paying, high quality trips then do the exact same 2-3 legs in and out of my home city for the rest of my career.
BIIINNNGGGGOOOO!!!! People need to wake up and GWTFP! New bases are not a "win" for us. Want to travel on you days off, JS offline (i.e. beg for a seat), stay in hotel/crash pad and fly lower paying trips because there are now eleventy-seven FDX domiciles? Not me.
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