Originally Posted by Coffeepilot1
(Post 3610852)
I think the industry is very different this time. Literally everyone is hiring, they could lose a lot of folks if they don’t come up with an industry leading contract.
Industry leading contract - how can we achieve that from where we are with QOL concessions TA'd so far, and no improvement to Scope? Everything has changed in the last 18 months. Without improving Scope, the rest of the CBA doesn't matter in the same way. And yeah, it's on us line pilots for not polling intelligently after listening to FDX ALPA say (paraphrasing): "our Section 1 is as good as it gets and cannot really be improved because language in that section is meaningless and full of holes regardless of what we do". I do feel like a moron for listening to FDX ALPA. Meanwhile our UPS brothers and sisters have steadily continued to tighten their language on Scope. |
Originally Posted by CloudSailor
(Post 3610868)
Yeah. We have probably lost a lot of folks already and just don't know it yet.
Industry leading contract - how can we achieve that from where we are with QOL concessions TA'd so far, and no improvement to Scope? Everything has changed in the last 18 months. Without improving Scope, the rest of the CBA doesn't matter in the same way. And yeah, it's on us line pilots for not polling intelligently after listening to FDX ALPA say (paraphrasing): "our Section 1 is as good as it gets and cannot really be improved because language in that section is meaningless and full of holes regardless of what we do". I do feel like a moron for listening to FDX ALPA. Meanwhile our UPS brothers and sisters have steadily continued to tighten their language on Scope. |
Originally Posted by Coffeepilot1
(Post 3610884)
DL voted their contract down in 16, management grossly miss calculated the new pilots coming in. Im confident it will happen here, if we don’t like it, it will be booted.
I hope you are right. I have just lost a bit of hope in our group being able to Vote NO on a concessionary TA, after the last three negotiation cycles. |
Originally Posted by NotMrNiceGuy
(Post 3610687)
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
(Post 3611803)
Wouldn't this have been better if it was in the Wall Street Journal?
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
(Post 3611803)
Wouldn't this have been better if it was in the Wall Street Journal?
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Originally Posted by opt0712
(Post 3611952)
Why? I'd imagine our upcoming presence physically ON Wall St. again will have more of an impact. See you there.
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