MEC Chair Authorized to Call for Strike Vote
 

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Hear, hear!!!! Let's gooooooooooooo

Good! Time to put up or shut up! Pick a side….

Well alright now!

Do it now!!

anyone watch the video yet? I’ve been super busy, might watch it later this week…. Been crazy busy.

I’ll sum it up for you, you lazy bag of garbage: 😉

Mommy and daddy gave him permission to go out and play hardball with his friends, he’s just not sure if he should step up to the plate and face the strikes, or sit in the dugout where it’s safe! He’s been in the dugout so long, and it’s cozy in there. Maybe Tony C can kick him in the a$$, tell him yeah, it’s scary out there, but his team needs him, it’s now or never, go get ‘em champ, that sort of thing.

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OMG. Seriously?

It’s literally only a 2:30 video. I don’t know what to say to you if you can’t even spare that little amount of time to be informed.

I think the English word for it is sarcasm.

I'll need you to look sarcasm up for me in the Merriam-Webster.

I would but I've just been crazy busy.

Setting us up for when you say the exact same thing once the TA is published? I bet you are.

ignore list. See ya troll.

he’s just crazy busy, give the guy a break.

👍 . On my "ignore list." Now I won't be tempted to send him mean spirited messages. Same with the NoWork Clown.

Put me down as a "Yes" vote.

From the latest update - "The current Company proposal exceeds the UPS rate only intermittently (3 months out of every 12) until July 2026, at which point our widebody pay rate would pass the UPS rate."

Hey FedEx that works for me on narrow body pay rates, now do wide body.

What a joke. FUPM

​​​​​​​Strike vote now!

Let me remind everyone how convenient it was for the company in previous TAs to compare our pay rates to bankrupt passenger carriers, only now we’re not as good as them, not worth as much because, lets be honest here, our union was initially asking for far less than what the Delta TA proved to be, an ask of which, had the company agreed, would have been cheap, comparatively speaking. Now, the company can’t stomach the idea of having lost an opportunity. now, we’re only as good as the UPS narrow body pilots with an old contract.

just my opinion. I could be wrong.

The company should be embarrassed…..EMBARRASSED that they are sooooo cheap in their compensation. We’re NOT going to attract applicants. Management keeps hanging their hat on the pension…wand the fact that since we have one, it means that our pay rates are appropriately lower. I’m embarrassed for them and am no longer a proud FedEx pilot It’s a shame……let’s vote already!!!!!!!! I wanna see that plastered all over Wall Street NOW!

Anytime anyone thinks about settling for less. Take a moment and remember the brave crew of the doomed UPS flight 6. That's why we should get paid MORE not because of night flying or fatigue or any of the rest. These company charge a premium to move that stuff and it certainly ain't going as anyone's belly freight. .there are really risks associated with what we do and for that reason alone we should never be paid any less that our brethren carrying the self loading freight.

Vote early. vote often. Vote No!

Sure wish we could vote...

**** poor journalism
 

This is a little misleading:
"Tensions have been high as the airline industry rebounds from the Covid-19 pandemic, leading to record losses of around $35 billion in 2020. Contract talks with pilots and flight attendants were further derailed by the pandemic, all while the industry faces a pilot shortage and rising costs."

I doubt that FEDEX lost $35 BILLION.........or lost any money at all.

Very misleading it should have said:
“while the passenger airline industry suffered record losses and was bailed out by the government during the pandemic, FedEx raked in record profits, keeping the world functioning, but somehow pax carriers are reaping rewards, industry leading agreements are close to being inked at delta air lines, where pilots are voting to ratify an agreement that provides a 30+percent raise, quality of life and retirement improvements. Meanwhile FedEx management is unwilling to provide their pilots with the same. “We are among the prize jobs in the aviation industry” FedEx founder Fred Smith has said. Will FedEx management step up to the plate and provide their pilots with an industry leading contact to solidify this claim and reaffirm their PSP principle? That remains to be seen.

​​​​​I came from Atlas, and let me tell you, there will always be applicants. The quality is what changes. Ie. The Houston crash.

I would strongly suggest they apply elsewhere and only come here as a last resort. The big 3 need way too many pilots.

A friend of mine works for Sun Country and he loves it. Loves the people he works for and with. He doesn’t want to leave.

Claiming FedEx as a last resort is a bit silly. Let’s see where the contract goes. Doom and gloom much? Delta had to get a strike vote. It wasn’t like Ed came to the pilots with an open heart. RELAX

It really helped us when he went on TV and told everyone we couldn’t strike. Or wouldn’t be allowed to. Or something like that. Pi$$ed off the mediator and that got stuff moving. But I honestly think it was his response to the strike vote more than anything.

The issue, as I see it is, once Delta stepped up, Kirby stated that United will follow. American is being steadfast in
its intransigence and has pre-cancelled thousands of flights this summer due to staffing. We aren’t hiring and the last conf. call stated they wanted to take 1.7 billion out of express’s hide. This’ll be partly accomplished by parking 11 planes. (Hopefully offset by new planes) One doesn’t get off reserve or upgrade by sitting in a jet that’s parked in Victorville and making plane noises. For the time being, reserve doesn’t really exist at the big three and upgrade is possible in less than a year. When we do open the doors, we’re offering a very long stent on reserve… in Memphis.

Just bringing us up to Delta rates will add $360 million to their pilot line item. (Avg. $60 raise x 1000hrs x 6000 pilots). We’re not winning this without a heck of a battle. At this point in time, I think a potential newcomer would be hard pressed to rationalize how FedEx beats the competition in life time earnings and QOL. The new contract may change that. Until then, coming here is a he** of a bet to make with a multi-million dollar career.

I'l agree with most of your sentiments. The only items I would like to mention are upgrade times and the raise. First, just because a few pilots can upgrade to captain in less than a year doesn't necessarily mean that is the average time to upgrade. We have WB captains getting WB pay with less than 5 years on the property. The Delta pilot who was awarded the 767 in their first year most likely will not see WB pay for quite a while. Their 76-300 pays the same as their 75's. Just last year we had a pilot who was in new hire training and was awarded the left of the 75. I don't think that will be happening again for a while here, but just like things changed here, they can change in the pax world as well.

As far as your numbers for a raise go, the first $45 of that average goes toward just keeping up with inflation. That is not a raise and should be expected at any company in the top 100 of the fortune 500. So, that raise actually would only cost the company $90 million a year. Even if this turns out to be a 5 year contract, that is less than half a billion dollars added for the life of the contract. Now, how much are they spending on stock buy back? They can afford it. We just have to demand it.

You’re absolutely right, Pinseeker. They can afford it and then some.

You guys keep thinking this company is on the COVID cocaine ride it was 2 years ago. That is over. Our five year WB Captain days are over. Heck, those guys may lose their seats. The guy at Delta on the 767-300ER is making WB pay because they're short of pilots; they're green slipping and their revision pay is incredibly better than our substitution or disruption pay. We hired like 1800 pilots over two years when the difference in growth between pre-COVID and post-COVID is a mere 3%. Even accounting for mandatory retirements, we are overstaffed.

I had a former Delta FO on the jumpseat this week. He explained why his second year at FedEx paid less than his last year at Delta. Much more less. But he did admit that he flew more than double the block. When asked if he would go back to Delta, he said, "I'm on the list that can return should I want to."

did you think that the “Covid cocaine” ride was going to last forever. Do you think we are never going to hire again do you think delta will ever catch up and not need to go gang busters from their Covid slow down? Or is FedEx going to either and die? It’s not awesome now. And I sure wouldn’t come here right NOW if I could go to delta. But what happens in 5 years? 10? 20? Nobody knows. RELAX.

Evidently the company did. Every update a year ago was “we plan on hiring 1500 more pilots”. Now look at where we are. Bang up job to those responsible in Crew Planning.. Imagine being the plug on the seniority list and when you were hired you were told you’ll have 750 pilots under you in a year. Whoopsie! Relax, dude, just give it 5 years.

Also, their 737 and 320 rates match our WB rates come March.

this is airline strategy 101. Hire hire hire hire until you don’t.

I certainly don't think that. That is why I said "I don't think that will be happening again here for a while." I also don't think that Delta upgrades to the 767 left seat in the first year will happen in perpetuity.

Yes, comparing our 2015 contract rates to their new 2023 rates means that their NB pilots will always make the same as our WB pilots. :rolleyes: Now let's compare our NOV 2015 rates to their Jan 2013 rates. Our rates have been stale since Nov 2020 and their March 2023 rates will have been refreshed. Point is, our new contract will have different rates and we will have to look at it as a whole.