VIPS Server Too Busy
 

I’m sick of this crap….the VIPS server has been busy for 17 years!!! FDX has what? 300K employees WORKDWIDE?! Makes BILLIONS from millions of customers WORLDWIDE! Yet, they can’t handle 5000 pilots trying to improve their lives 12 nights a year????

NO CONCESSIONS! This is how they view our importance, this is what they think of us. If you need another reason, well here it is…. I’m ready to vote!

But hey….thank you for all you’ve done…

It's almost like they use tactics like this to wear us down so we vote yes on the first deal put in front of us... almost.

I will never understand the logic of the company putting the screws to us in order to get a yes vote to a subpar contract. Maybe it's like the old logic of hitting your children? Kicking the dog? One would think it's more like poking the bear.

Anyways, I believe we simply have old technology and extreme cost saving measures to blame here. Gotta get the company to open the purse strings somehow.

It actually works, that's why they do it. A lot of people don't have the fortitude to survive the beatings and still vote no to get what they are actually worth. Our negotiating history full of concessions and givebacks is proof of that.

We still do not have a permanent Secondary Line Generator program that we negotiated for in out last contract that was over 7 years ago. Shows you where he priorities are. Although, I also blame ALPA for this delay.

What pay provisions are currently not automatic? I know for a fact that one of them is moving an R day. If you do not request pay for schedules moving one of your R days the company saves 3 hours of pay. I am sure there are others. More savings for the company.

How many expense reports do you currently have that are not closed? My last closed report was August of 2022. Please explain to me why I have a deadline to submit but the company does not have a deadline to close them. Hire some more auditors!! More savings for the company.

I will end it with a great quote from Magic Rat - But hey….thank you for all you’ve done…

You have to request the correct pay if you move an R-Day?!

Ah crap...

No, he’s writing about schedulers moving an R day — Section 25.M.6.h. “CRS may remove 1 R-day from the beginning or end of a subsequently scheduled block of R-days
in the same bid period and add that day to the end of a reserve
pilot’s current block of R-days in order to complete a reserve as-
signment. No more than 1 R-day per line, per bid period, may be
moved without a pilot’s approval….A pilot subject to the provisions of this
paragraph shall receive 3 CH disruption pay in addition to his RLG”.

He is saying that you need to know this because the system will not automatically give you the extra 3CH. I’m really glad he pointed this out because it happened to me this month for the first time in years. I probably wouldn’t have remembered to check. Thanks, USMCFDX.

You are welcome - absolute bull sh!t that this is not programed to be automatic - just another example of FedEx stealing money from your pocket

It's too hard to code in... They sure were quick to code in the COVID restrictions that worked in their favor

any revision pay, extension pay, any of that always check, lest they “accidentally” overlook this.

In my experience they are about 50/50 in properly coding my overages. Weirdly enough it’s the more obscure ones they catch but I have to Insite the easy ones.

Total BS that we need to keep track but just another example of why it pays to know your contract and how THIS COMPANY CONTINUES TO STEAL FROM ITS EMPLOYEES.

You’d be fired in a microsecond if you tried to pull the kind of crap they pull on us. Tip a taxi driver 25% even if you have a $25k deviation bank? Payroll deducted. What a clown show.

What’s the tip limit?

It’s 20% but good luck finding that written anywhere.

Just awful. Mimics regional airlines. If you are in the pool still or interested once they start hiring again in 5 years do yourself a favor and stay far far away.

Regretting leaving DAL already?

Since the second I got on the line. Zero opportunity or movement is my biggest gripe but I’ll go on. Requirement to have and maintain an airport car. Lugging your bags in and out of vans shuttles etc 4 times a night at 3am. Expense reports. 500$ a month crashpad. 1.5 hour reserve callout with unlimited airport standby. Third world country MEM. Paychecks that would make you absolutely puke. I could make more serving tables at my local Chilis. I could even go on but hopefully this is enough so people like me won’t get duped into thinking because you don’t have to say hello to passengers or introduce yourself to flight attendants that this is somehow a better job. It’s not.

chilis would probably hire you if you were willing to wear enough flair. Keep it real. More at chilis…I bet a chili worker would love to swap paychecks. Maybe you should do it.

The thrust of his angst isn’t the potential for earnings, it’s what we do for those earnings, the certificates, the schedules, the hidden costs, the treatment, the first-year pay, the endless third shifts, I swear, you guys get numb to this, associating valid complaints to your egos, associating egos to this job, the swell of pride you must feel every time you see a fedex truck hogging the banger lane on the interstate, anyone daring to challenge this loop quickly discarded with a love it or leave it mentality.

Wow - I had no idea you could earn so much serving tables at a Chilis!

If you are complaining about having a crash pad, and having an airport car (which is not a requirement - at least I’ve yet to read anywhere that FedEx requires you to have and maintain an airport car), and moving bags in and out of vans/shuttles in the middle of the night then you clearly didn’t do any research before coming to FedEx. You could avoid a Crashpad and airport car by moving to MEM and living in base. Oh, but you equated Memphis to a 3rd world country. Let’s see - Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Oakland, Chicago, New York, Detroit … All airline pilot bases, and are you saying all of those places are better than Memphis??? Memphis is no different than any other large Democrat run city - they all have issues and are all in the news for their lawlessness and Woke policies.

I will offer you some advice - Life is way to short to go through it doing something you hate. I’d suggest going somewhere you’d be happy to work. If/when we get an industry leading contract I don’t think you will be happy because you will still be doing all those things you seem to despise.

It’s unfortunate you regret leaving Delta, but no one forced you to make that choice, and if you hate it at FedEx so much nothing is stopping you from leaving.

look. Im hanging on for a better contract just like everyone else. And I’ll vote accordingly as I have a long career ahead. My sub 10 years here has been generally positive. Most recently it has been sour, yes. I’m not brandishing an ego but saying you’d make more at chilis is absurd. You guys can be so hyperbolic. At least put some honesty and integrity in your posts. look at the history of the airlines. Hiring waves and lulls. Feasts and famine. It’s the entire industry. If you think you can make more bussing/waiting tables in the service industry… it can’t be the only thing you’re “servicing” 😳

This is why nothing ever improves and the CBAs are merely improved pay rates and concessions; because of all the purple koolaid felching “if you don’t like it then leave it” types. You guys are a disease.

pointing out the many shortcomings isn’t hyperbole, and I would be willing to bet that a savvy waiter can bring home far more than a first-year fedex pilot. maybe even second year, for third year a waiter would probably have to transfer to Longhorns, or maybe sell a little something on the side.

and to the other dude, Memphis is a $hithole, plain and simple! You obviously live there, and bless your heart for defending your turf. it’s cute.

The best contract in the world isn’t going to change the basics of what a pilot does at FedEx, and this person feels they were somehow ‘duped’ into leaving a good job for a job they now seem to despise - the only thing that will make this person happy is to go find a place where they enjoy working.

If someone is complaining about work rules and whatnot then that’s a different story, and to that person I’d say let’s see if the TA fixes those things and then make an informed decision.

It has nothing to do with drinking the Kool Aid and more to do with if you’re not happy here because you drag your bags around at night and have to have a crash pad and airport car then find a place you will be happy - because none of that is going to change.

I personally feel bad for them regretting their choice.

Back on topic - Yes … it’s BS how often ‘server is too busy, try again in a few seconds’ pops up for a company this size.

Not required, but you said it best your self buddy! on reserve??? Yeah, you're gonna need that crash pad and a car to do your job.

Never would move my wife and kids to Memphis, much like the 70%+ commuters that are Memphis based. I'd be divorced in a years time. It's not a good city, and all those cities you listed are better than Memphis (ya, even the scary woke democrats!!!).

Many are making the change, going somewhere they will enjoy for the rest of their career just like you said. I did research on FedEx before coming here, it was much, much different than what was explained to me by those who are here. It's good that people like him are sharing their experiences so that those who are on the fence will have more than just the norm here.

Don't forget your purple boxers & socks before you go into your next trip!

I didn’t come to FedEx because I was ‘duped’ into how wonderful the IT department was - only to be let down that it is lacking. Increase the servers or whatever and that would fix it. No need to go work at IBM.

Nice try though ;)

I was with you right up until the Chili's stupidity - but yes, it sounds like you're junior in your seat. It has been known that FDX is one of the worst airlines to be junior. Specially domestic flying.

These are all issues that can be addressed in negotiations that are still open, thanks to the Tightwad Corp.

We need to improve QOL for junior pilots in a big way, it helps everyone across the board. We need to improve RES in a big way, it really really blows here. Horrible RES lines and non-existent long call RES from home keep senior guys to you and I from bidding RES, which in the end affects us all.

It’s baffling if you actually enjoy working at FedEx and don’t jump on the suddenly in vogue bandwagon that FedEx is such an awful place to work, and you then offer someone advice that if they really dislike and hate it so bad then find a place they would like going to work and now suddenly you are a Kool aid drinking crazy person.

I suppose when he compared FedEx wages to servers at Chilis I should have realized there’s no point in responding.

It's baffling that if someone speaks poorly about FedEx you suddenly get defensive about all things FedEx.

The Chili's thing was a stretch, I'll agree there.

Lol. I love listening to things like this and why I shouldn't have gotten the jab at 3am. Next you'll be telling us we need to "Do our own research". Nobody told me I'd have to put up with that before I came here.

​​​​​​Maybe I should just leave, right? Comical

On the pay issue. I agree its BS the company treats us in this manner. As much as it sucks its prevalent at every major airline. Read the forums at DAL, AA and UA. DAL has an entire committee just for tracking down pay none compliance. Just finished a trip with a hard charger “willing to extend”. Who’s fault is it really? We incentivized it with our choices as a group in many cases. In others it’s just another reason to know your contract. No contract language could every fix it as history would prove. Pay grievances are as old as the industry itself.

I agree although I didn’t buy the chilis waiter comment. But then again, I’ve never been a waiter. But his is a list of many small inconveniences that may never be improved with a better contract. But they are certainly some small reasons why we should have an industry leading contract In every section. For what we do, we deserve it.

Continuing to say everything bad here happens at all other airlines and thus disincentivizing a desire to make things better here through contract improvements is the same as those you extenders you vilify. Neither of you help the cause by doing it, by your own logic that is.