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Old 02-23-2023, 07:14 PM
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I’m sick of this crap….the VIPS server has been busy for 17 years!!! FDX has what? 300K employees WORKDWIDE?! Makes BILLIONS from millions of customers WORLDWIDE! Yet, they can’t handle 5000 pilots trying to improve their lives 12 nights a year????

NO CONCESSIONS! This is how they view our importance, this is what they think of us. If you need another reason, well here it is…. I’m ready to vote!

But hey….thank you for all you’ve done…
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Old 02-24-2023, 06:06 PM
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I’m sick of this crap….the VIPS server has been busy for 17 years!!! FDX has what? 300K employees WORKDWIDE?! Makes BILLIONS from millions of customers WORLDWIDE! Yet, they can’t handle 5000 pilots trying to improve their lives 12 nights a year????

NO CONCESSIONS! This is how they view our importance, this is what they think of us. If you need another reason, well here it is…. I’m ready to vote!

But hey….thank you for all you’ve done…
It's almost like they use tactics like this to wear us down so we vote yes on the first deal put in front of us... almost.
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Old 02-24-2023, 10:58 PM
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It's almost like they use tactics like this to wear us down so we vote yes on the first deal put in front of us... almost.

I will never understand the logic of the company putting the screws to us in order to get a yes vote to a subpar contract. Maybe it's like the old logic of hitting your children? Kicking the dog? One would think it's more like poking the bear.

Anyways, I believe we simply have old technology and extreme cost saving measures to blame here. Gotta get the company to open the purse strings somehow.
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I will never understand the logic of the company putting the screws to us in order to get a yes vote to a subpar contract. Maybe it's like the old logic of hitting your children? Kicking the dog? One would think it's more like poking the bear.

Anyways, I believe we simply have old technology and extreme cost saving measures to blame here. Gotta get the company to open the purse strings somehow.
It actually works, that's why they do it. A lot of people don't have the fortitude to survive the beatings and still vote no to get what they are actually worth. Our negotiating history full of concessions and givebacks is proof of that.
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Old 02-25-2023, 06:01 AM
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I’m sick of this crap….the VIPS server has been busy for 17 years!!! FDX has what? 300K employees WORKDWIDE?! Makes BILLIONS from millions of customers WORLDWIDE! Yet, they can’t handle 5000 pilots trying to improve their lives 12 nights a year????

NO CONCESSIONS! This is how they view our importance, this is what they think of us. If you need another reason, well here it is…. I’m ready to vote!

But hey….thank you for all you’ve done…
We still do not have a permanent Secondary Line Generator program that we negotiated for in out last contract that was over 7 years ago. Shows you where he priorities are. Although, I also blame ALPA for this delay.

What pay provisions are currently not automatic? I know for a fact that one of them is moving an R day. If you do not request pay for schedules moving one of your R days the company saves 3 hours of pay. I am sure there are others. More savings for the company.

How many expense reports do you currently have that are not closed? My last closed report was August of 2022. Please explain to me why I have a deadline to submit but the company does not have a deadline to close them. Hire some more auditors!! More savings for the company.

I will end it with a great quote from Magic Rat - But hey….thank you for all you’ve done…
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We still do not have a permanent Secondary Line Generator program that we negotiated for in out last contract that was over 7 years ago. Shows you where he priorities are. Although, I also blame ALPA for this delay.

What pay provisions are currently not automatic? I know for a fact that one of them is moving an R day. If you do not request pay for schedules moving one of your R days the company saves 3 hours of pay. I am sure there are others. More savings for the company.

How many expense reports do you currently have that are not closed? My last closed report was August of 2022. Please explain to me why I have a deadline to submit but the company does not have a deadline to close them. Hire some more auditors!! More savings for the company.

I will end it with a great quote from Magic Rat - But hey….thank you for all you’ve done…
You have to request the correct pay if you move an R-Day?!

Ah crap...
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You have to request the correct pay if you move an R-Day?!

Ah crap...
No, he’s writing about schedulers moving an R day — Section 25.M.6.h. “CRS may remove 1 R-day from the beginning or end of a subsequently scheduled block of R-days
in the same bid period and add that day to the end of a reserve
pilot’s current block of R-days in order to complete a reserve as-
signment. No more than 1 R-day per line, per bid period, may be
moved without a pilot’s approval….A pilot subject to the provisions of this
paragraph shall receive 3 CH disruption pay in addition to his RLG”.

He is saying that you need to know this because the system will not automatically give you the extra 3CH. I’m really glad he pointed this out because it happened to me this month for the first time in years. I probably wouldn’t have remembered to check. Thanks, USMCFDX.

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Old 02-25-2023, 09:19 AM
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No, he’s writing about schedulers moving an R day — Section 25.M.6.h. “CRS may remove 1 R-day from the beginning or end of a subsequently scheduled block of R-days
in the same bid period and add that day to the end of a reserve
pilot’s current block of R-days in order to complete a reserve as-
signment. No more than 1 R-day per line, per bid period, may be
moved without a pilot’s approval….A pilot subject to the provisions of this
paragraph shall receive 3 CH disruption pay in addition to his RLG”.

He is saying that you need to know this because the system will not automatically give you the extra 3CH. I’m really glad he pointed this out because it happened to me this month for the first time in years. I probably wouldn’t have remembered to check. Thanks, USMCFDX.
You are welcome - absolute bull sh!t that this is not programed to be automatic - just another example of FedEx stealing money from your pocket

It's too hard to code in... They sure were quick to code in the COVID restrictions that worked in their favor
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You are welcome - absolute bull sh!t that this is not programed to be automatic - just another example of FedEx stealing money from your pocket

It's too hard to code in... They sure were quick to code in the COVID restrictions that worked in their favor
any revision pay, extension pay, any of that always check, lest they “accidentally” overlook this.
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In my experience they are about 50/50 in properly coding my overages. Weirdly enough it’s the more obscure ones they catch but I have to Insite the easy ones.

Total BS that we need to keep track but just another example of why it pays to know your contract and how THIS COMPANY CONTINUES TO STEAL FROM ITS EMPLOYEES.

You’d be fired in a microsecond if you tried to pull the kind of crap they pull on us. Tip a taxi driver 25% even if you have a $25k deviation bank? Payroll deducted. What a clown show.
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