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02-27-2023, 08:33 AM

#31

FXLAX

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Originally Posted by Anthrax

The thrust of his angst isn’t the potential for earnings, it’s what we do for those earnings, the certificates, the schedules, the hidden costs, the treatment, the first-year pay, the endless third shifts, I swear, you guys get numb to this, associating valid complaints to your egos, associating egos to this job, the swell of pride you must feel every time you see a fedex truck hogging the banger lane on the interstate, anyone daring to challenge this loop quickly discarded with a love it or leave it mentality.

I agree although I didn’t buy the chilis waiter comment. But then again, I’ve never been a waiter. But his is a list of many small inconveniences that may never be improved with a better contract. But they are certainly some small reasons why we should have an industry leading contract In every section. For what we do, we deserve it.

02-27-2023, 08:37 AM

#32

FXLAX

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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay

On the pay issue. I agree its BS the company treats us in this manner. As much as it sucks its prevalent at every major airline. Read the forums at DAL, AA and UA. DAL has an entire committee just for tracking down pay none compliance. Just finished a trip with a hard charger “willing to extend”. Who’s fault is it really? We incentivized it with our choices as a group in many cases. In others it’s just another reason to know your contract. No contract language could every fix it as history would prove. Pay grievances are as old as the industry itself.

Continuing to say everything bad here happens at all other airlines and thus disincentivizing a desire to make things better here through contract improvements is the same as those you extenders you vilify. Neither of you help the cause by doing it, by your own logic that is.

Last edited by FXLAX; 02-27-2023 at 08:45 AM. Reason: Clarity