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Originally Posted by Flying Boxes
(Post 3620511)
How are you enjoying retirement?
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of retro pay but no retro retirement. I am pointing out that if you want someone within a year of retirement to vote "no", you need to guarantee them retro retirement. I am also pointing out that one reason the company is delaying is because it saves them money every time someone retires under the old amounts. The MEC not considering retro retirement is the ultimate "F you, I've got mine." Their action on this is despicable. Are you, and the MEC, so blind you cannot see that? |
Originally Posted by Nightflyer
(Post 3620557)
I'm not retired. I have several years left.
I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of retro pay but no retro retirement. I am pointing out that if you want someone within a year of retirement to vote "no", you need to guarantee them retro retirement. I am also pointing out that one reason the company is delaying is because it saves them money every time someone retires under the old amounts. The MEC not considering retro retirement is the ultimate "F you, I've got mine." Their action on this is despicable. Are you, and the MEC, so blind you cannot see that? |
Originally Posted by opt0712
(Post 3619601)
Richard Smith quoted today that the MD11 will be gone at the end of FY28. So May 2027. 4 years.
Originally Posted by Nightflyer
(Post 3619854)
Anyone with less than 3 years on the property should start looking at other options. Might even be 4, I don't know.
When the "no longer called an excess bid" comes out, a lot of the speculation will be revealed. I predict lots of turmoil in the next few weeks. |
Originally Posted by Flying Boxes
(Post 3620560)
Did ALPA change something to screw retirees? When did ALPA negotiate for retirees?
I guess I am too naive to think ALPA would "not leave anyone behind". Shame on you ALPA. |
Originally Posted by Nightflyer
(Post 3620562)
Quite a few have retired since the amendable date. If we are entitled to retro pay, they should be entitled retro retirement.
I guess I am too naive to think ALPA would "not leave anyone behind". Shame on you ALPA. If pilots over age 54 at signing of C2006 got $25K, were not all pilots entitled to $25K? If pilots over age 54 at signing of C2015 got $40K retirement bonus, were not all pilots entitled to $40K retirement bonus? How did you vote on these contracts? |
Originally Posted by Flying Boxes
(Post 3620574)
Again, when did ALPA (or any union) negotiate for retirees?
If pilots over age 54 at signing of C2006 got $25K, were not all pilots entitled to $25K? If pilots over age 54 at signing of C2015 got $40K retirement bonus, were not all pilots entitled to $40K retirement bonus? How did you vote on these contracts? I voted no in 2015. I voted no in 2006. I think I voted "yes" on the second half of the "bridge" contract, IIRC. |
Originally Posted by Flying Boxes
(Post 3620560)
Did ALPA change something to screw retirees? When did ALPA negotiate for retirees?
The people retiring after the amendment date helped build the company and FedEx ALPA! |
Originally Posted by pinseeker
(Post 3620265)
Interesting. My rep and another rep told me otherwise.
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Originally Posted by HIFLYR
(Post 3620576)
We negotiate for new hires not here yet by raising new hire pay last contract and apparently this time etc. It will not effect me as I have 5 years left but to say we don’t negotiate for people on the property is false.
The people retiring after the amendment date helped build the company and FedEx ALPA! So did a lot of pilots under age 54 at signing. |
Originally Posted by DirtyPurple
(Post 3620437)
I took that “elephant in the room” question to be referring solely to driver consolidation, not the pilots picketing on the street below. The drivers are currently non-union, therefore outside the RLA, which was the question. The question was posed in response to the repeated claims that FedEx was going to the “one van for one neighborhood” model.
I couldn’t understand Raj’s mumbling, angry answer that trailed off in volume. That’s how I heard it, sounds like that question might be open to interpretation. |
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