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Old 06-23-2023, 02:05 PM
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How did you all read JB's business update regarding fleet planning? He says we still plan on taking delivery of 29 aircraft by the end of FY25 (6 777s and 23 767s). But in the same paragraph, states that we will be parking an "additional" 29 aircraft by the end of 2024. Is this old news (i.e. planned retirement of MD-11s?). So essentially a 1 for 1 replacement for the MDs as they sunset. Or, are these 29 aircraft in addition to the MD11 retirements?
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You can check out the fleet plan in posting 23-01. Its pretty close.
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How did you all read JB's business update regarding fleet planning? He says we still plan on taking delivery of 29 aircraft by the end of FY25 (6 777s and 23 767s). But in the same paragraph, states that we will be parking an "additional" 29 aircraft by the end of 2024. Is this old news (i.e. planned retirement of MD-11s?). So essentially a 1 for 1 replacement for the MDs as they sunset. Or, are these 29 aircraft in addition to the MD11 retirements?
His comment on wet-leasing is what caught my attention the most. They realize that most of us are concerned so it sounds like some damage control is being done. They really want this TA to pass
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His comment on wet-leasing is what caught my attention the most. They realize that most of us are concerned so it sounds like some damage control is being done. They really want this TA to pass
yeah about that…….that’s gonna be a big no.
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His comment on wet-leasing is what caught my attention the most. They realize that most of us are concerned so it sounds like some damage control is being done. They really want this TA to pass
Bingo! The company and the union disseminating the same lockstep message is very concerning.

I’m willing to give the company flexibility to wet lease when needed, but the language in our CBA is big enough to DRIVE an Atlas 747 through it.
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Bingo! The company and the union disseminating the same lockstep message is very concerning.

I’m willing to give the company flexibility to wet lease when needed, but the language in our CBA is big enough to DRIVE an Atlas 747 through it.
PurpleToolBox, my man.

Guys like you who the whole way leading up to the TA were hoping the NC would deliver. But now that you've seen the Sales Show you realize how without improvements and strengthening (vs. the concessions in the TA) of Section 1 SCOPE, the rest of the contract is meaningless. This TA even gives away our ability to just ask the company about who is now moving our freight.

Thank you for showing the decency to acknowledge what this TA would do to those pilots not retiring in the next year or two.
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Yep, Union sent JB a message to calm the crews with the fleet update. Everyone is working together to lie to the crew force.
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Yep, Union sent JB a message to calm the crews with the fleet update. Everyone is working together to lie to the crew force.
Man let's vote already. You're so invested in a favorable outcome whatever will you do if this doesn't go your way.
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Yep, Union sent JB a message to calm the crews with the fleet update. Everyone is working together to lie to the crew force.
Probably not working together but they sure have the same agenda.
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Man let's vote already. You're so invested in a favorable outcome whatever will you do if this doesn't go your way.
I’m sending my message the first hour this vote opens. Hopefully this TA will fail within the first week.
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