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777 Pay Rates: Delta $417.54. United $421.72. FedEx $335.56.

Good thing we happen to be in contract negotiations so we can fix it - as opposed to locking in lagging pay rates forever.

Negotiations are over! FDX ALPA in the reorganization mode now. $335.56 will be the pay rate for quite awhile.

I think you meant to say "FDX ALPA is in resignation mode now.

If not, we should all (except Block 2) be in RECALL mode now.

Lagging and stagnated pay rates next 2 to 5 years never to be recouped.
800+ furloughed within next year
400 to 1000 senior pilots retiring under old TA $260,000 cap.
The new CFO and company will be laughing and celebrating all the way to the bank.
All you NO voters gave the company $Billions and took $Billions away from the pilots.
I hope you are happy!, I will not be shedding any tears for the NO voters who get furloughed or stuck at 2020 757 FO pay rates
For next 2 to 5 years.
Thanks again!

Lol. Cry more! Best environment to ever be furloughed in. I'll gladly start class at UAL, DAL, AA, or even Southwest and keep my FDX seniority #.

UAL took 9 months to get TA 2.0. Delta was 14 months. Where do you get your time frame from???

Sorry you didn't get your pension bump at the cost of our careers. We'll still include you when we get all gains retroactive to the amendable date, even with you kicking and screaming about it.

what a thing to say you sick fûç k

I say give them the furlough they voted for.

Ya. Give us the furlough we voted for. It's such a scary environment to get furloughed in. It may take a week to get called for an interview at Delta, AA, United.

The YES voters who had no problem with the large majority of gains being focused on a small group while the right seat and more junior absorbed the QOL losses, are now mad and actually want people to be furloughed. Unreal and shameful.

I agree 100%

This is really something to watch the old guys take a first-class ticket on the same fear train that has prevented them from ever fighting for anything at FDX.

If the company refuses to be industry standard then it's not a job worth having.

This business that furloughs were somehow tied to our vote is an absolute red herring concocted as part of the sell-job. The company will furlough if they're going to furlough and they won't if they weren't going to.

If things are so great at UAL, Delta, and AA, why wait for furlough? put your papers in now and leave!

don’t let the door hit ya on the way out

I have a good schedule here that people like you just tried to give away on this TA! I'll stick around for TA 2.0 and if that one still sucks I'll vote no again and then leave. Hopefully you'll be gone before TA 2.0 comes around. You better hope management hurries up. Another 200ish yes voters will probably retire and another 600 + pilots with some stones will be eligible to vote on the next TA. Enjoy your retirement Boomer! Call me if you need to borrow some $!

I'm not leaving until I vote no on TA 2.0 if it isn't good enough.

Absolutely shameful (downright unconscionable) to say we voted for a furlough and to wish that upon a coworker. For once, FDX pilots stood their ground and said “we deserve more”. No one- I repeat- no one voted for a furlough. We voted to have an industry leading contract, pay rates, and retirement. Blame our MEC and NC for leading you astray with bogus sales tactics. Shame on you.

They (posters above) can call for furlough all they want but we are already seeing folks ready to step up for leadership roles to take us to the next challenging step.

This TA was so divisive that it brought so many ringers among us who showed strength, fortitude and patience to get us to this point. We saw folks get deep down into the details, ask hard questions and never let up on the messaging.

One great example: remember the pay charts that had our high BLG against legacy averages. Those inaccuracies were discovered and highlighted by a line pilot, who showed detailed work on why they were terrible comparisons.

Parting thought, if furloughs were as serious as they (they =Union) say we would have never had a TA that had a tiered retirement bump that would see more pilots stay on longer at the highest end of the earning spectrum and waste capital on raising NH pay by 65%. What we did have was a substandard concessionary document that would have allowed the company to decrease the MSL thru regular rates of retirement and attrition as the company ramp up partner lift (as stated in company’s public financial documents) on our way to being the next top tier ACMI.

I think you NO voting snow flakes got caught up in the group think thing over small insignificant QOL issues. I hope the $billions we lost are worth it to you!

It was ALPA mentioning furloughs not the company!

Why don't you two leave if you are so unhappy? You don't stand with the majority of the pilot group on this TA. Demanding others bend to the will of the minority makes no sense.

Boomer and Global are really melting down! Must've really been wanting to retire soon. Oh well. Maybe age 67 will pass. Stay as long as you want!

snow flake. Good one. You’re the problem here, not those of us trying to fight for the jobs of every FedEx pilot. Sorry you won’t retire under TA1. Cry me a river.

Yea that was definitely weird for them to do that. However, I see the company definitely mentioning furloughs now.

Don’t worry Westerner I just like melting you snowflakes.

You are a piece of work. I really hope you are not on the FDX seniority list.

You are also a piece of work. Bitter much?

Shame on you.

So, you think Scope is a "small, insignificant QOL" issue?

Seriously?

People like you are why FedEx has had a subpar contract for many years. This TA would’ve permanently cemented its place as a B scale airline forever, but fortunately 56% have the brains and cojones to know their worth and stand up for it. You’re pretty vocal on JF so channel that energy towards something useful going forward. Get on board or get the F out of the way.

It is to him! He probably has 2 pensions, 1 year to retirement, a 48 inch waste line, and myocarditis.

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You aren’t in negotiations anymore. You will have to start fresh, keep old pay rates for years 2-5. No amount of increase will make up for what you just voted to let go. Management laughing all the way to the bank, stock holders will love it! Have fun living on 54 hour lines

Those of you saying stuff like this are letting your emotions get the best of you. Its perfectly fine to have disagreements on the merit of the now failed TA, but this kind of talk is inexcusable under any circumstance. If you're speaking your true feelings, you do realize it makes you a downright bad person right?

I'm sure you're not and maybe a little cooling off time is needed before you say other things to further divide your group.

Great first troll post! Somebody is very upset they aren't getting their retirement bump in the immediate future. Don't worry, I'll vote no on the next one if it doesn't include you and your ilk.

Just like we would have never been able to reclaim the income lost on all the work rule give-backs in 1.0.

If that is your stance we lost 2 years already. why didn't we take the inital offer from the company and be happy with it

As well as a lagging pay rate from which to bargain from for the next twelve contracts

I find it hard to believe you're a pilot here and would say that.

But you are back, posting from your momma's basement.

flyguy23…….you are correct I need to chill…thanks!