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Bunchahoopla 08-10-2023 12:21 PM

Looks like we need 2 pilot min language
 
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Flew with an FO today that shared this with me. Looks like scope and single pilot operation needs to be addressed in TA 2.0. Add it to the survey!

Bunchahoopla 08-10-2023 12:23 PM

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Also this………

JackStraw 08-10-2023 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Bunchahoopla (Post 3680632)
Flew with an FO today that shared this with me. Looks like scope and single pilot operation needs to be addressed in TA 2.0. Add it to the survey!


Thank you! Finally someone is paying attention!

Beech Dude 08-10-2023 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bunchahoopla (Post 3680632)
Flew with an FO today that shared this with me. Looks like scope and single pilot operation needs to be addressed in TA 2.0. Add it to the survey!

1. Do you guys even have A321Fs on order?
2. "Will require addl SPO training." OK, so don't do it. If you must, bid to go MCO, if you're JM/assigned/awarded SPO, then cough cough, ugh, I think...

But, good to know! We all know this is the fight. Ask all the engineers who got zapped by technology. Revenge of the nerds!

max8222 08-10-2023 02:53 PM

So losing the FO getting bumped for training isn’t really saving the company much money since there will not be any FO’s!

FedEx Pilot 08-10-2023 04:51 PM

Don’t shoot the messenger, just what I heard during TA 1.0 negotiations. ALPA is wanted language for 2 man crews at the controls at all times and the company said it was a hard no like ALPA is with PBS when the company brings it up. I think our only chance of combatting it is the FAA doesn’t approve it. PAC better lobby hard on the Hill

Bunchahoopla 08-10-2023 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by FedEx Pilot (Post 3680764)
Don’t shoot the messenger, just what I heard during TA 1.0 negotiations. ALPA is wanted language for 2 man crews at the controls at all times and the company said it was a hard no like ALPA is with PBS when the company brings it up. I think our only chance of combatting it is the FAA doesn’t approve it. PAC better lobby hard on the Hill


everything is negotiable, know your worth! Hold the line! If other carriers can get the language, so can we

Machpoint90 08-12-2023 07:18 PM

If the company is putting effort into researching this and Airbus is pushing their technology to accommodate it we'd be stupid to not pursue required cockpit manning TA2. I'm told we approached the company during this last negotiations on section 1 and they said absolutely not since it would inhibit the company's effort at advancing technology. Remember, this is the airline that turned a three person DC-10 into a two crew MD-10. People said that could never be done too. It's likely coming and we'd be foolish to not address it as a high priority on the next round.


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