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Originally Posted by CactusMan
(Post 3767440)
Yes to asking my block rep - declined to answer directly. He said the credit for A-plan sunset “proved difficult to quantify” based on two main factors: forecast of new hires coming on board and how many current pilots would opt for MBCBP.
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Originally Posted by Anthrax
(Post 3767348)
Or … or heres something we haven’t tried before: we could fight for the value we bring this company; god forbid the money go into the pockets of pilots and not senior executives and share holders.
where is your fight, man? why are you so determined to shuffle money around instead of demanding more? do you benefit from stock buy backs? That'll be a nice change. Can't wait to see that. Let's see how unified we are with something simple like disputed pairings. Those haven't been an issue for a while. Think they'll all be untouched a few weeks from now? Hey, it's ANC so maybe there's a chance. According to the latest scheduling podcast, there might even be some draft available soon. Let's see how that works out. Then come back and talk to us about "fight". Or is it going to be about "deserve" again? Just to be clear, deserve has nothing to do with it. Never has, never will. |
Originally Posted by max8222
(Post 3767355)
How does that math even add up? We are all not taking the retirement in the four years of the contract. Really need to take age of retirement x longevity tables when you stop drawing it x $39K.
So if I retire at 63 with high five and 25 YOS and tables say I will live to 79 then it would be 16 years X $39K or an added value of $624K in addition to my already agreed up $130K a year. Maybe I get lucky and live to 90. So for me the extra value to me and cost to the comapny would be $1,053,000. So there are quite a few variables which require some estimates. |
Originally Posted by Emmerson Bigs
(Post 3767454)
Oh, we're going to fight this time? Because we sure didn't for TA 1.0. Pilots are going to make different individual choices this time around? We're going to actually back the NC when they go into the room and the company looks past them at us?
That'll be a nice change. Can't wait to see that. Let's see how unified we are with something simple like disputed pairings. Those haven't been an issue for a while. Think they'll all be untouched a few weeks from now? Hey, it's ANC so maybe there's a chance. According to the latest scheduling podcast, there might even be some draft available soon. Let's see how that works out. Then come back and talk to us about "fight". Or is it going to be about "deserve" again? Just to be clear, deserve has nothing to do with it. Never has, never will. but but the majority, barely, are willing to fight; clearly you are not among us. |
Originally Posted by Emmerson Bigs
(Post 3767454)
Oh, we're going to fight this time? Because we sure didn't for TA 1.0. Pilots are going to make different individual choices this time around? We're going to actually back the NC when they go into the room and the company looks past them at us?
That'll be a nice change. Can't wait to see that. Let's see how unified we are with something simple like disputed pairings. Those haven't been an issue for a while. Think they'll all be untouched a few weeks from now? Hey, it's ANC so maybe there's a chance. According to the latest scheduling podcast, there might even be some draft available soon. Let's see how that works out. Then come back and talk to us about "fight". Or is it going to be about "deserve" again? Just to be clear, deserve has nothing to do with it. Never has, never will. |
Originally Posted by Maddog64
(Post 3767469)
The 4 to 1 is the requirement by the government to fund the pension, it is called a PBO or pension benefit obligation. For every dollar we get the company is required by law to put 4 bucks away. So a 39k increase in FAE means the company has to put away 900 million.
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Originally Posted by Stan446
(Post 3767590)
I don't think you have your numbers even close.
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Originally Posted by Anthrax
(Post 3767476)
I feel ya. some folks just cannot help themselves, and this selfishness destroys the macro challenges we face.
but but the majority, barely, are willing to fight; clearly you are not among us. |
Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler
(Post 3767414)
318, Thought you got a new gig a couple of weeks ago?
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
(Post 3767845)
That would be the guy I mentioned who got NOQed…
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