term sheet a kick in pants
02-06-2024, 05:12 PM
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term sheet a kick in pants
Council 7 message out - "cost neutral" - that means $0 from last Jun, which means it's got less value since it's 6 plus months later. Man where's that new TA the Company suppposedly had in their hip pocket, because you know, "you always vote no on the first TA". Not looking so good right now.
02-06-2024, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuck
Council 7 message out - "cost neutral" - that means $0 from last Jun, which means it's got less value since it's 6 plus months later. Man where's that new TA the Company suppposedly had in their hip pocket, because you know, "you always vote no on the first TA". Not looking so good right now.
02-06-2024, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bitwiser
What's not looking so good right now is PM and everyone supporting him. Maybe he should've resigned like he said he would after the TA failure. Oh well, looks like we STILL have to start all over, once we finally admit that this team isn't gonna get it done.
02-06-2024, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bitwiser
What's not looking so good right now is PM and everyone supporting him. Maybe he should've resigned like he said he would after the TA failure. Oh well, looks like we STILL have to start all over, once we finally admit that this team isn't gonna get it done.
02-06-2024, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuck
Council 7 message out - "cost neutral" - that means $0 from last Jun, which means it's got less value since it's 6 plus months later. Man where's that new TA the Company suppposedly had in their hip pocket, because you know, "you always vote no on the first TA". Not looking so good right now.
Their tactics haven't changed.
The clock ticks for both sides.
The most anxious lose.
VR,
DLax
(p.s. Our previous leadership had a 99% strike authorization vote in their pocket. Never used it. We might need too. Time will tell)
02-06-2024, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DLax85
They want us to turn against each other.
Their tactics haven't changed.
The clock ticks for both sides.
The most anxious lose.
VR,
DLax
(p.s. Our previous leadership had a 99% strike authorization vote in their pocket. Never used it. We might need too. Time will tell)
Their tactics haven't changed.
The clock ticks for both sides.
The most anxious lose.
VR,
DLax
(p.s. Our previous leadership had a 99% strike authorization vote in their pocket. Never used it. We might need too. Time will tell)
02-06-2024, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rock
Please take a few hours and read the railway labor act. Focus on the sections involving the NMB. The only thing more delusional than your "we have more leverage now than ever" is "we just need to strike". The longer the clock ticks, the happier management is. The longer we beg them to stick to the 2015 CBA, the happier they are. I honestly have to wonder if you aren't working for them. They couldn't hope for a stronger advocate. It's brilliant when you think about it. Plant someone in social media that keeps promising things that will never happen so the pilots keep voting to extend pay rates negotiated a decade ago for another decade. We gain nothing. They don't have to add a nickel to anyone's paycheck or retirement. Who is really losing here?
Why did UPS Teamsters do the same last summer?
Does the NMB control our customers when they decide how to ship?
VR,
DLax
p.s. I’m unsure what you think I’ve promised. I’m sure I don’t work for the company. I believe our leverage comes once a year - maybe twice this year, with the Postal Contract up for rebid. I understand profit = revenue - cost. Their goal is to maximize profit and they focus on both variables.
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02-06-2024, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DLax85
They want us to turn against each other.
Their tactics haven't changed.
The clock ticks for both sides.
The most anxious lose.
VR,
DLax
(p.s. Our previous leadership had a 99% strike authorization vote in their pocket. Never used it. We might need too. Time will tell)
Their tactics haven't changed.
The clock ticks for both sides.
The most anxious lose.
VR,
DLax
(p.s. Our previous leadership had a 99% strike authorization vote in their pocket. Never used it. We might need too. Time will tell)
02-06-2024, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DLax85
Why did our previous MEC leadership call for a strike authorization?
Why did UPS Teamsters do the same last summer?
Does the NMB control our customers when they decide how to ship?
VR,
DLax
p.s. I’m unsure what you think I’ve promised. I’m sure I don’t work for the company. I believe our leverage comes once a year - maybe twice this year. I understand profit = revenue - cost. Their goal is to maximize profit and they focus on both variables.
Why did UPS Teamsters do the same last summer?
Does the NMB control our customers when they decide how to ship?
VR,
DLax
p.s. I’m unsure what you think I’ve promised. I’m sure I don’t work for the company. I believe our leverage comes once a year - maybe twice this year. I understand profit = revenue - cost. Their goal is to maximize profit and they focus on both variables.
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