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Originally Posted by FeverDream
(Post 3929529)
Yes, you are definitely defending it and victim-splaining. It appears you are very reluctant to place anything clearly on the company. Was the guy who was provoked by his wife when he beat the snot out of her, contributory to the situation? Yes, maybe if you are trying to defend the wife beater. Yet it is the wife beater who is convicted--not the provoking wife. Stop defending the wife beater. Seriously.
P.S. Nice edit job on my post. Guess you didn't like how what I actually wrote looked. |
Originally Posted by FeverDream
(Post 3797591)
Based on personal conjecture and logic:
Isn't most of our week-on/week-off flying night hubturns? I get it--people who have flown days for two decades are terrified of night hubturns. But if the number of commutes is the concern--night flying=fewer commutes from my toplevel perusal of bidpacks. What's wrong with being an optomist? So, are you victim blaming here? |
Originally Posted by JustInFacts
(Post 3929537)
So, are you victim blaming here?
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Originally Posted by Pilotguy21
(Post 3928916)
It should make you realize “dang, this company is really treating us all so poorly, I didn’t realize it was that bad for the junior crowd.” Is there some parallel universe in which you think the "senior crowd" is being better treated at FDX? The big difference is that the "senior crowd" is well past V1 and it's way too late to file an alternate. Were I in my 30's or early 40's and I would have already begun my divert. |
Originally Posted by ROTORGUY
(Post 3929438)
Got a friend of mine interested in FedEx. Are you guys making any progress at all with a contract? Did the company really offer you guys an opportunity to go to PSA during contract negotiations or is that just a joke/rumor? I hope you guys get a contract you deserve and soon.
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Originally Posted by MaxRange
(Post 3929523)
Why is he interested? \Many management pilots haven't even turned a wheel in decades and haven't felt the pain of our 1960s work rules.
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Originally Posted by FeverDream
(Post 3929404)
but the BIG PROBLEM (can we please agree?) is when pilots are getting paid less than the BLG the contract guarantees. Because the CBA has no objective prescription for calculation of the SAM and because FedEx affords no respectful transparency to the pilot group, that number has been manipulated in bad faith by FedEx. So besides industry lagging pay, we are FURTHER DOWN from there by virtue of unilaterally lowered BLGs.
Can we all just put that blame with where it belongs? Or should we split hairs? I don’t read Justin’s rebuttal as victim blaming or supportive of the company’s efforts. He’s simply stating that the company has used the contractual provisions against us. THE BIG PROBLEM is that we have union members that continue to fly 50 hr + draft trips on top of their normal schedules during 4a2c. Why do we have contractual language that permits this? Just so I’m clear, we’re overmanned and all on reduced pay (let’s call it a distributed and partial furlough) and the company can still draft guys to work 25 days per month? YMBFFM. Blame the company if it makes you feel better. They’re simply taking advantage of our lack of self awareness and common sense…….and any contractual guardrails to correct it. |
Originally Posted by JustInFacts
(Post 3929535)
Classic response from someone who blames others for anything bad that happens to them. Always the victim, never looking at how their own actions contributed to their situation. You are very reluctant to admit that choices have consequences.
P.S. Nice edit job on my post. Guess you didn't like how what I actually wrote looked. Not what’s happening. Of course when the abused victim reflects on what went wrong before her convicted abuser beat the snot out of her, perhaps some thoughtful reflection about not provoking a known abuser could go a long way in the future. In the meantime…let’s get the abuse stopped. Maybe get a TRO? And admit that the abuser is the problem? |
Originally Posted by Cowpoke
(Post 3929562)
I don’t read Justin’s rebuttal as victim blaming or supportive of the company’s efforts. He’s simply stating that the company has used the contractual provisions against us. THE BIG PROBLEM is that we have union members that continue to fly 50 hr + draft trips on top of their normal schedules during 4a2c. Why do we have contractual language that permits this? Just so I’m clear, we’re overmanned and all on reduced pay (let’s call it a distributed and partial furlough) and the company can still draft guys to work 25 days per month? YMBFFM. Blame the company if it makes you feel better. They’re simply taking advantage of our lack of self awareness and common sense…….and any contractual guardrails to correct it.
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Originally Posted by JustInFacts
(Post 3929537)
So, are you victim blaming here?
—in bad faith (even you admit that)—lowers our guarantee and at which time you blame the ones whose paychecks are adversely affected? How long did it take you to go through my 40 or so posts to find that huge gotcha? |
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