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Temocil27 08-11-2025 03:20 PM

Negotiation update
 
So we can just negotiate out of mediation now? How the hell does this process actually work?

EMBFlyer 08-11-2025 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 3937772)
So we can just negotiate out of mediation now? How the hell does this process actually work?

About as well as you think it will...unless things change (and so far, they haven't).

HvypurplePylot 08-14-2025 08:11 AM

Help me understand the timeline, we ask for permission to talk with the company, then launch a campaign humiliating someone on the other side of table?

I like both of these things. It just seems we have the surgical precision of drunk lumberjack.

Thrust Hold 08-14-2025 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot (Post 3938862)
Help me understand the timeline, we ask for permission to talk with the company, then launch a campaign humiliating someone on the other side of table?

I like both of these things. It just seems we have the surgical precision of drunk lumberjack.

Chalk it up to union bureaucracy delaying a campaign that had been in the works for sometime, but launched right when the other announcement was made.

acecrackshot 08-14-2025 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Temocil27 (Post 3937772)
So we can just negotiate out of mediation now? How the hell does this process actually work?

With the concurrence of the NMB parties can meet direct. Its not terribly common but it does occur.

acecrackshot 08-14-2025 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot (Post 3938862)
Help me understand the timeline, we ask for permission to talk with the company, then launch a campaign humiliating someone on the other side of table?

I like both of these things. It just seems we have the surgical precision of drunk lumberjack.

Well, what do describe as the situation where an organization posits that their organization is significantly overmanned, but requires extra volunteerism to operate?

Freds Ex 08-14-2025 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by acecrackshot (Post 3938913)
Well, what do describe as the situation where an organization posits that their organization is significantly overmanned, but requires extra volunteerism to operate?

Add significantly overmanned but wouldn’t let anyone leave for another flying job without resigning their seniority.

Biggest BS flag ever. If that isn’t a sign of bad faith negotiation I don’t know what is.


Temocil27 08-14-2025 02:11 PM

I got 4 draft calls last week

HvypurplePylot 08-14-2025 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by acecrackshot (Post 3938913)
Well, what do describe as the situation where an organization posits that their organization is significantly overmanned, but requires extra volunteerism to operate?

Again, i don't disagree with the sentiment but we need to be more strategic with our messaging. We are paying people 98 hours a month to do just this.

Freds Ex 08-14-2025 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot (Post 3939003)
Again, i don't disagree with the sentiment but we need to be more strategic with our messaging. We are paying people 98 hours a month to do just this.

Used to pay people 98hrs a month to make huge concessions at the negotiating table and put up “fix the pension” billboards on along the roads the rampers use to get to work. At least the initial course correction is pointing away from that now, even if it still needs some small adjustments.


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