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Old 08-11-2025 | 03:20 PM
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So we can just negotiate out of mediation now? How the hell does this process actually work?
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Old 08-11-2025 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Temocil27
So we can just negotiate out of mediation now? How the hell does this process actually work?
About as well as you think it will...unless things change (and so far, they haven't).
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Old 08-14-2025 | 08:11 AM
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Help me understand the timeline, we ask for permission to talk with the company, then launch a campaign humiliating someone on the other side of table?

I like both of these things. It just seems we have the surgical precision of drunk lumberjack.
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Old 08-14-2025 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot
Help me understand the timeline, we ask for permission to talk with the company, then launch a campaign humiliating someone on the other side of table?

I like both of these things. It just seems we have the surgical precision of drunk lumberjack.
Chalk it up to union bureaucracy delaying a campaign that had been in the works for sometime, but launched right when the other announcement was made.
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Old 08-14-2025 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Temocil27
So we can just negotiate out of mediation now? How the hell does this process actually work?
With the concurrence of the NMB parties can meet direct. Its not terribly common but it does occur.
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Old 08-14-2025 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot
Help me understand the timeline, we ask for permission to talk with the company, then launch a campaign humiliating someone on the other side of table?

I like both of these things. It just seems we have the surgical precision of drunk lumberjack.
Well, what do describe as the situation where an organization posits that their organization is significantly overmanned, but requires extra volunteerism to operate?
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Old 08-14-2025 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by acecrackshot
Well, what do describe as the situation where an organization posits that their organization is significantly overmanned, but requires extra volunteerism to operate?
Add significantly overmanned but wouldn’t let anyone leave for another flying job without resigning their seniority.

Biggest BS flag ever. If that isn’t a sign of bad faith negotiation I don’t know what is.

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Old 08-14-2025 | 02:11 PM
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Old 08-14-2025 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by acecrackshot
Well, what do describe as the situation where an organization posits that their organization is significantly overmanned, but requires extra volunteerism to operate?
Again, i don't disagree with the sentiment but we need to be more strategic with our messaging. We are paying people 98 hours a month to do just this.
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Old 08-14-2025 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot
Again, i don't disagree with the sentiment but we need to be more strategic with our messaging. We are paying people 98 hours a month to do just this.
Used to pay people 98hrs a month to make huge concessions at the negotiating table and put up “fix the pension” billboards on along the roads the rampers use to get to work. At least the initial course correction is pointing away from that now, even if it still needs some small adjustments.
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