if you think jg is the answer you’re a short bus kinda stupid.

One can take issue with JG's potential strategic mistake at the table (big retirement ask), but also be critical of reps and how they handled that situation which caused our union to divide.

They deserve it a lot less than CT and CC and MB. They are a cancer on the crew force.

The new fly by night podcast was great. Hopefully some guys can take heed to what they said about emotions and negotiating.

The progress they are making while also being transparent about it is about all you can ask for. Hopefully they are allowed to continue down this path.

Unfortunately, the power hungry egomaniacs are determined to flip this whole thing on its head.

So, the majority of the MEC votes to go a certain direction and they are dividing the union? In March 2024, 8 of the 15 reps at the time voted to ask the NMB for release. Were you on here talking about how they divided our union, I don't think so. So, just because you disagree with the majority, the majority are bad.

You keep saying that we had leverage going into peak while under 4a2bc. You said flights were getting canceled. So, why would the exit from 4a2bc change that. In November, the minimum line BLG was 76 hours, now it is 85 hours. There was plenty of room to add hours to the BLG and it wouldn't have counted toward an exit from 4a2bc. The same would go for December.

Go to the Delta thread and look at how they are having to fight to get the pay they think they are owed. Look at how their positive space commuting grievance turned out. So, tell us again how we were going to bring the company to their knees.

How many guys do you fly with that were hired after 2015 that are hard set about keeping the pension? I don't fly with many. I like the pension, but if the majority want to give it up for a 18% or more DC plan with cash over cap or some other vehicle, then so be it. I'm sure if that happened and we got Delta rates plus you would have some conspiracy theory about how the company was really cheating us.

JG and the TC8 have cost us 14 of the last 19 months of being on ice. In direct negotiations with the company, all that JG accomplished was getting some actuaries together to talk about costing formula's. So, we are 27 months from the failed TA and JG can't even agree on how to cost his proposals?

What about that direct line to the NMB that JG had that would allow us to restart negotiations quickly, as soon as he presented a new plan. Was that a lie, or did he not come up with a new plan. Trying to push us to an impasse isn't a plan. It's more like the toddler throwing a tantrum in the grocery store because they want a cookie. The toddler 5 are going to keep us in time out.

Read JN newest email. He is finally being a leader and showing the crew force the way forward. You want progress or do you want the five burn it down to drag us into nothing but stalling and excuses. Zero gains or improvements. Just saving the company so they can give us pennies on the dollar in ten years!

See, we need a Max8222 series of concessions to get him to retirement...errr, I mean, to a good contract.

So Max8222, what is the reasonable scope for Fedex pilots?

Acedbag, Your mom give you access back to your computer in the basement?

How'd that work out?