Man you just proved my point. Like you just proved it's all about the hours an rday is worth and has nothing to do with the "one rday is = 1 vday" you had been saying.
good man

OK, last time sucked into this fight! :)

1200rt, the issue becomes HOURS only if you elect an extension. If you bid a reserve line and do not elect an extension, it is and always has been a 1 for 1 transaction.

IF a pilot elects an extension, then and only then, does the hours formula become applicable. I think you have not drawn a line between the two distinct processes?

Either way, reserve extension with ridiculously low R day pay is a small ray of sunshine...:rolleyes:

Amen to that!

Hopefully, Purple-dude will report back on what he did, how many days off he got, and subsequently, how many hours were deducted from his vacation bank.

This thread is a perfect example of how some conversations just can't work via back-and-forth textual communication.

Anyway....I'm out!

Merry Christmas to those who have it off! :D

Well, yea but the original question was about extension!!! I'm getting a 69hr buy back in a coupla weeks so I understand well how you can bank vtime and just use the min number of rdays that are required.

But the question was about extending not about using the minimum required.

potAYto.....potAHto

still saying the same thing

R1200RT.....you're exactly right!!

there, I said it :)

Ho....Ho....Ho.....Merry Christmas guys! :D

Actually, it is 1 Vacation day (from "as awarded" up to max extension allowed by the CBA {14 days in the OP's case}) = 1 day off reserve. No one said 1 day of the original award. We are talking 1 day after extension. Extend to 14 days of vacation, get 14 days (the whole month for the 72) off reserve. If he had chosen to not extend, then he would only get 8 days off, and would only be charged 30.8 hours (3.85 x 8.) He could also extend anywhere from 1 to all 6 available days. Given the current low R-day value on certain airframes, there are a lot more options for vacation with an Reserve line.

No wonder it takes us years to get a crappy contract......
Some of you guys are just messed up.. ;-)

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Bringing back this old thread with a question after banging my head on the wall.

Bottom Line when bidding a reserve line and having vacation that month. Is there any need to actually have the vacation footprint(i.e. the 7 day block plus or minus 5) touch any part of the R Days. Based upon reading here it doesn't matter where the R days are on the schedule, correct?

I plan to use my 7 days, extend to 10 days and then hope the remaining 5 days are somewhere palatable.

Correct--it doesn't matter where the R days are on your schedule. You will need to go to Bid Period Processing, Vacation Adjustments, and select Reserve Line Reconstruction during that window (i.e. before Monday morning 0600, I think). That is for "knocking out" your R days with vacation.

Having said that, however, if your vacation days are PRIOR to your R-days, and you do not completely knock out all R days for the month, your remaining R days will show leveling credit for the vacation hours expended. (This is why some people want vacation early in a bid month, then bid reserve days later in the month.) If your remaining R days come before vacation, dat plan no workee.:eek:

Of course, in some seats/jets, reserve folks have been regularly utilized beyond RLG. Result: "Sorry sir, even that 60 hours of leveling doesn't keep us from assigning you a trip." :mad: