I think I listed April 1. But that was when I filled out the app back in February. The email didn't come until this past week.

Yes, immediately available is what I have listed.

Just about every millenial I've ever met.

Give. Me. A. Break.

I've certainly met some pretty impressive young folks. This guy was the "stereotype" modern kid, however. It was not so much generational as IMHO a mom who was very academic and a bit sheltering. He is highly intelligent, and like the guy from The Big Short will probably make himself and a of other people a lot of money someday.

Lesson I learned in life is jobs are good. Work is good. Make sure your kids have a little balance. It doesn't have to be working at 7/11 or fast food, but get them interested in doing something...

Nailed it. I recently spent a few years working at a semi-prestigious university with kids like that. It is kind of a generational thing but the generation with the problem is more often than not...ours (assuming someone born in the 60/early 70's). The best way to screw up your kid is to do everything for him or shelter him from all harm. The second best way is to push your kid to accomplish your dreams. Especially the dreams you didn't quite accomplish.
I saw those kids in college. You now see them in the interview pools. Waiting with eager anticipation to watch them perform in the work place.
And I'll caveat that by saying those kids aren't the majority. And many of the kids I worked with were eye-wateringly impressive. But the ones with over-protective, high expectation helicopter parents...weren't. Fortunately, I really don't expect to see many of them in the cockpit.

Any Calls This Week?
 

Know some calls went out last week; Has anyone received a call this week? If you do, please share!

Trying to get a gauge for frequency, think some of us are very close... thanks for sharing and best of luck to all you gentlemen.

Can someone give me some info regarding the type of trips in CGN? How quickly can one expect to be based in CGN? I'm currently at a legacy based in ATL but would really like to move my family to Europe. I'd be losing about 3 years seniority and approx 2500 numbers to head to FDX. Is the grass greener? Please PM with any insight. Thanks

Last time I looked, we have 2 day-time lines BSL-CDG-BSL, and 2 TLV-CDG lines one great/one good (the best trips there, IMO). The remaining lines are night-hub turn lines, with the nice ones being BCN and AMS (1 leg in/1 leg out), and the remainder being 2 legs in/1 leg out - and vice versa. We haven't heard specifics on how the TNT acquisition will change intra-EUR flying. Our SVP of Flt Ops has hinted that the TNT deal will only improve/increase flying in EUR, but until it's 'painted purple and sitting on the ramp' it's all speculation at this point.

It has been easy to get the CGN domicile award since many of our guys seem to cycle out at the 2/2.5 year mark.

Now, as to you leaving DAL and giving up 2500 numbers (you must be about 80th percentile right?), that's a very tough call - a big seniority position to give up. The grass is greener in some ways, but not in many others. At the end of the day it's what you make of it... and your seniority.

Good luck.

On the last practice bid, new hires just made 757Captain. Is this a joke?

The FAA is going to love that.

They already think we are super-human and don't need the same rest that our pax brothers get. So, brand new 757 cargo-carved-out captains should be no big deal.

BTW, I thought you were exaggerating. Just looked at the final practice bid (which should be closest to next Monday's reality). Wow, new hires indeed to M57C. That's ****ing awesome! Good on them!

Good on them but not so good on the FO who's got to fly with them.

How so?

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I think it went to May 2015 Date of Hire.

Delta has 2 year Captains on the MD-88 in NYC from what I've been told.

By the time this trains out, he/she will be on property 3 years. Pre 9/11, upgrade times like this were more common.

Besides, in 2005 when I got hired, Captain was going 4.5 years on the 727.

Great to see this sort of movement! Great to see this sort of movement industry wide! Been a long time coming!

Was the 5/15 DOH junior captain award an actual award, or a practice bid/snapshot thing before the final comes out?

They aren't newhires. They have been here for over 11 months.

This is probably the dumbest comment I have seen on APC in a long time.

I completely disagree with that statement and look forward to flying with them.

I think those of us who wrote 'new hires' are aware they are not in Basic Indoc today. Technically, you are correct sir Walrus. But, come on man, less than a year on property - they might as well be new-hires considering the stagnation here in the last decade (weren't NB CA awards in 2010-2014-ish, guys with 10+ years on property?).

Of course, this was still just a practice bid. Might it even go even more junior on the final bid?

Make sure to get your shots before heading to Memphis?

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Really?! Really?! Like we have never had a position of command prior to FedEx? Most of us have all been Captains at other airlines, or AC commanders at some point. I'll give you that a small few might not have had the opportunity for upgrade, but we all have the capability, otherwise, we would not have been hired.

Annoys the crap out of me when I fly with a guy that talks to me like I've never flown an airplane before. Guess my 11k hours and prior LCA job just don't count here.

In my humble opinion, and based on observation, our system form and night flying make it to where pilots don't get better at Fedex. They have the skills they brought to the company, and they either hang on to them or they don't, but they don't get better.

We were all probably better pilots at the 11-month point here....

I was a Flight Engineer at the 11-month point here.






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I was a B-727 Flight Engineer at the 60-month point here.

When I was at CAL, we had year 2 guys awarded 737 EWR Captain.

They did fine and the FAA didn't care.

I'm not sure why some Fedex guys get all riled up about this when the major airlines have never cared.

That's exactly why anyone with over, say 3 or 4 years at the company should be fired immediately. Just look at the cost savings: salary; vacation; use of sick time; retirement; the list goes on and on.:rolleyes:

It was the last Practice Bid.

By the time those most junior captains get trained, given the problems with the 757/767 program, they will have 3-4 years on the property.

As to history, when I finished check out in the 727 left seat, I had just over 5 1/2 years on the line. 6 months later, guys with 4 1/2 years were finishing up. Of course, this was the '04-06 timeframe.

You certainly aren't ready for the left seat. You must be a joy to fly with with this attitude. Ah, another FO who knows he can do it better than everyone else. My sympathy for your future FO's.

Yes, exactly. They'll have at least 2 years on property. That's why it's ridiculous to have some of our outstanding aviators "concerned" over FO's flying with these junior 757 captains. :rolleyes:

But, but, but, there hasn't been enough time to fully indoctrinate them into the FedEx way of doing things! They might still be free thinkers. Oh the travesty! 😀

Anybody get a call this week? I know calls went out last week, perhaps they're doing bimonthly? Trying to get a gauge for interview round frequency...

What's your availability date?

I am flying with one of those guys awarded 75 captain on the practice bid this month . In addition to being a very nice guy and a joy to fly with, he is also a former check airman, standards guy, and has type ratings on 777, 737, and 75/76. He flew at a previous airline for over 25 years until it went under. He would not only be a good 1 year captain, but a solid 2 year check airman.

Don't confuse seniority for talent or ability. I came to Fedex passing on an 8 month A320 captain upgrade at Jetblue, but another former F-15 contemporary went there (we both were given class dates at JB...he also had an interview pending at FedEx but never left) and upgraded at less than a year. He did just fine, despite no 121 experience.

FedEx hires captains. When you get to upgrade is dependent on a lot of variables, but everyone here should be capable. Nobody is here building flight time for their next job. If you are here, then you can upgrade.

I know someone who got a call this week.

Albie, or anyone else who might know,
Has anyone received an invite to interview without jet time?
Does someone with 10k+ in turbo-props (non military) have any chance of getting a call?
Thanks

Albie,

You know as well as anyone that that's just not true. Perhaps at one time, those few may have been able to upgrade, but over time, either their skills, or their determination, or both deteriorated to a point where some are just incapable of upgrading. And, there's nothing wrong with that, as long as they do their current job appropriately and professionally.

There are dozens (or more) of guys here with only turboprop time; some military, some civilian. I know several personally, from a previous life, who had no jet time and are here today. I don't know what that means for the current qualifications they are hiring right now, but I would say it's worth your time to apply.

Our previous CP was a Navy P-3 pilot.

MG2

Thanks for the response.

I know several people that were hired there with only turbo-prop time, but that was before they started letting the computer choose who gets called for an interview.

At a job fair a few years ago, I was told by HR that I needed jet time?

Thanks for the response.

I actually talked with him at the WAI job fair a few years ago, and he mentioned that. He said "turbo-prop time is fine with me, but I don't choose who gets a call, that's up to the computer."

I'm hoping that might change with all the hiring that's happening now. I've heard that the 1000 PIC requirement is gone, maybe the jet time requirement will change as well?

Thanks