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HIFLYR 12-21-2017 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by ColtF15 (Post 2487249)
This situation applies directly to my personal situation so hopefully I can offer some insight on what I’ve learned.

Both my sponsors have spoken with HR and looking specifically at my time: 1000 F15c and 1000T6 nearly all of it PIC and more than half IP time, the answer they got from HR is T6 time doesnt count for any of it based on both weight and not being multi engine turbo prop. Even my 150 T37 hours don’t count due to weight despite the multi engine. Their advice to my sponsors and thus to me was get another 500 hrs of Eagle time and wait for the call/email.

Multiple pilot friends of my sponsors have asked HR and their respective system chief pilots on my behalf if they really want to exclude T6 hours and all of their conversations it is an intentional decision by HR to exclude that category not out of spite or anything, just the desire to have more emphasis on heavier weight aircraft. Hope that helps clarify.

Here’s to more Eagle time, or maybe a regional...

colt

Sadly many civilian and military guys were and are being prevented interviews by this misguided HR weight limit rule. Also, know a military heavy turbo prop guy who was a commander and has plenty of time cannot get a interview because he cannot click the jet box. i.e. no jet time. Thus not enough points to to be considered.

pinseeker 12-21-2017 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by HIFLYR (Post 2487274)
Sadly many civilian and military guys were and are being prevented interviews by this misguided HR weight limit rule. Also, know a military heavy turbo prop guy who was a commander and has plenty of time cannot get a interview because he cannot click the jet box. i.e. no jet time. Thus not enough points to to be considered.

There are countless C-130 and P-3 pilots at FedEx that have been hired without any jet time. Are you saying that if you don't have jet time, you can't get hired?

DLax85 12-21-2017 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by HIFLYR (Post 2487274)
Sadly many civilian and military guys were and are being prevented interviews by this misguided HR weight limit rule. Also, know a military heavy turbo prop guy who was a commander and has plenty of time cannot get a interview because he cannot click the jet box. i.e. no jet time. Thus not enough points to to be considered.

Tell the commander “jet” really means “turbine” and to go ahead and check the box. I’m pretty sure even our previous Chief Pilot would agree with that.

MaydayMark 12-21-2017 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by DLax85 (Post 2487337)
Tell the commander “jet” really means “turbine” and to go ahead and check the box. I’m pretty sure even our previous Chief Pilot would agree with that.

Two former Chief Pilots (WM & DB) were Navy P-3 bubbas ... I'll bet they would have counted multiengine turboprop time as adequate for an interview.

Current Flight Management seems more reasonable than prior administrations. It seems like that should be a bonus for interviewees?

MM

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HIFLYR 12-21-2017 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 2487310)
There are countless C-130 and P-3 pilots at FedEx that have been hired without any jet time. Are you saying that if you don't have jet time, you can't get hired?

What I am saying it is a point system that only decides for getting the nod to be interviewed. Not being able to click the Jet box has limited many from having enough points to be considered in todays hiring matrix. The matrix gives points for many things that we as pilots do not consider such as the supposed quality of the college, community service, awards etc. I am not saying no one gets the nod without jet but the lack of it is sometimes a problem. What I was trying to point is that unless they really want you 1000 hrs turboprop would not be in the ball park for a interview. Not saying it's fair as I would not be hired toady as I was 98% turboprop and in 18 years no problems in training and a PCA just the way it is. The good news is the company has had the Hoffs reprogram some of the preferences in the Hoffs algorithm to consider more factors and give places for people to explain things. One being taking more that 4 yrs to get a college degree at first they thought that showed a lack of discipline. They never considered guys like myself had to work their way through college. etc.

HIFLYR 12-21-2017 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by DLax85 (Post 2487337)
Tell the commander “jet” really means “turbine” and to go ahead and check the box. I’m pretty sure even our previous Chief Pilot would agree with that.

Do that and get to the interview and be set loose for lying. Turboprop and jet are separate categories for a reason on the application site.

Hacker15e 12-21-2017 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by HIFLYR (Post 2487274)
because he cannot click the jet box. i.e. no jet time. Thus not enough points to to be considered.

Sounds like your friend is ****-blocking himself because there is no such turboprop-exclusive "jet box".

This is the verbiage from PilotCredentials regarding qualifications for interviews:


1500 hours total fixed-wing time as pilot-in-command (PIC) or second-in-command in multi-engine turbo-prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof (GTOW 12,500). A minimum of 1000 hours total fixed-wing pilot-in-command in multi-engine turbo prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof (GTOW 12,500 or greater) is preferred.

HIFLYR 12-21-2017 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Hacker15e (Post 2487403)
Sounds like your friend is ****-blocking himself because there is no such turboprop-exclusive "jet box".

This is the verbiage from PilotCredentials regarding qualifications for interviews:

I am not talking qualifications I am talking inputs to the Hoffs super computer Pilot credentials site , the one that ranks you via points for your experience, work and education history. The real problem is the legal department has for all practicable purposes taken over the pilot hiring process. But hey tell your friends to do what they want it does not matter to me.

StickPig 12-22-2017 10:10 AM

Updated Hiring Quals...
 
Any new updates on the competitive hiring quals for guys getting hired right now?

JohnnyDingus 12-22-2017 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by StickPig (Post 2487905)
Any new updates on the competitive hiring quals for guys getting hired right now?

My buddy has an interview.

Part 121
LCA
4000-5000 TT
1000-2000 TPIC
4 Year degree

Hacker15e 12-22-2017 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by HIFLYR (Post 2487413)
I am not talking qualifications I am talking inputs to the Hoffs super computer Pilot credentials site , the one that ranks you via points for your experience, work and education history

There are new hire C-130 and P-3 guys in the last two or three years who are counter-examples to your "jet box" theory.

Either way, PilotCrednetials takes inputs of your individual aircraft types and automatically breaks it down into jet, turboprop, etc. There's no way to "lie about it on the app to get called for an interview" and then say something different about it when you actually get to Memphis.

You guys speak of it as if there were literally a yes/no question on the app which asks, "Do you have 1000 hours of jet PIC?" on which you had to make a white-knuckle decision on which box to click.

HIFLYR 12-22-2017 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Hacker15e (Post 2487984)
There are new hire C-130 and P-3 guys in the last two or three years who are counter-examples to your "jet box" theory.

Either way, PilotCrednetials takes inputs of your individual aircraft types and automatically breaks it down into jet, turboprop, etc. There's no way to "lie about it on the app to get called for an interview" and then say something different about it when you actually get to Memphis.

You guys speak of it as if there were literally a yes/no question on the app which asks, "Do you have 1000 hours of jet PIC?" on which you had to make a white-knuckle decision on which box to click.

I guess your right but I never said there was a single jet box, I have always said the time is entered on the PC site. Yes, people lie on PC site and it comes out in interviews. I just said he had no jet time so he could not enter time in a jet category, i.e. no jet time. I guess you know better how this works than me and one of the people who have access to the Pilot Credentials site sitting beside me now.
Merry Christmas

FlyingOkra 12-25-2017 07:00 AM

Latest company memo:

“As a result of our strong business, we plan to hire another 420 pilots next year -- 200 more than the projected retirements for 2018.”

Good luck to all hopeful candidates!

Update your App frequently, attend the next Expo or Job Fair and track down an Endorsement if possible.

Happy Holidays!

KC10 FATboy 12-25-2017 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingOkra (Post 2489270)
Latest company memo:

“As a result of our strong business, we plan to hire another 420 pilots next year -- 200 more than the projected retirements for 2018.”

Good luck to all hopeful candidates!

Update your App frequently, attend the next Expo or Job Fair and track down an Endorsement if possible.

Happy Holidays!

2018 is certainly going to be an interesting year for pilot hiring. With many big airlines increasing their needs, 420 jobs at FDX is simply amazing. That means for three years, FDX will have hired 30% of its pilot workforce. Crazy.

JohnUtah 12-27-2017 10:21 AM

Quick question for recent interviewees that were prior USAF. What all documents did they ask you to bring?

adqrip 12-28-2017 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by JohnUtah (Post 2490185)
Quick question for recent interviewees that were prior USAF. What all documents did they ask you to bring?

Parent's marriage license...

just kidding...couldn't help myself...

CandlerKid 12-28-2017 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by adqrip (Post 2490576)
Parent's marriage license...

just kidding...couldn't help myself...

That's for your Indian visa...

I haven't heard of anybody getting negative feedback during the interview on logbooks. Don't stress about that and concentrate on prepping. They will work with you and be reasonable on all the paperwork stuff. Good luck!!

JohnUtah 12-28-2017 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by CandlerKid (Post 2490591)
That's for your Indian visa...

I haven't heard of anybody getting negative feedback during the interview on logbooks. Don't stress about that and concentrate on prepping. They will work with you and be reasonable on all the paperwork stuff. Good luck!!

Thanks, I worry about that because I don't have my complete AF flying history report. The people who stole my safe were nice enough to take it too. Only have my one page flying history report, Form 8s and OPRs, which I made electronic copies of but dont have my line by line stuff any longer so hope that isn't a deal breaker. I do have my complete civilian logs though.

pinseeker 12-29-2017 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by JohnUtah (Post 2491099)
Thanks, I worry about that because I don't have my complete AF flying history report. The people who stole my safe were nice enough to take it too. Only have my one page flying history report, Form 8s and OPRs, which I made electronic copies of but dont have my line by line stuff any longer so hope that isn't a deal breaker. I do have my complete civilian logs though.

I would contact HR and find out what they would want from you given your circumstances, especially if you don't have enough qualifying hours in you civilian log books. Any advice you get from this forum is worth what you paid for it.

mempurpleflyer 12-29-2017 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by JohnUtah (Post 2491099)
Thanks, I worry about that because I don't have my complete AF flying history report. The people who stole my safe were nice enough to take it too. Only have my one page flying history report, Form 8s and OPRs, which I made electronic copies of but dont have my line by line stuff any longer so hope that isn't a deal breaker. I do have my complete civilian logs though.

Should not be a deal breaker. I don't think they look through the "line by line" printouts anyway. The one page summary should be all you need. Most military guys also put together a spreadsheet that shows the methodology they used to arrive at the hours on their profile. For example, most guys use all of their IP and EP time (as PIC)but only a percentage of Primary and Secondary...to account for those times that they were not the "A Code".

The key is to be conservative and be able to explain to the interviewer how you came up with your numbers. You are not the first military guy they have interviewed...they know exactly how the AF logs time and exactly what they are looking for. Just like in everything, be open and honest. I doubt the line by line printout will even come into play but, if they did ask for it, just tell them what happened.

NewOldGuy 12-29-2017 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by JohnUtah (Post 2491099)
Thanks, I worry about that because I don't have my complete AF flying history report. The people who stole my safe were nice enough to take it too. Only have my one page flying history report, Form 8s and OPRs, which I made electronic copies of but dont have my line by line stuff any longer so hope that isn't a deal breaker. I do have my complete civilian logs though.



Have you tried contacting the HARMS office from your last duty base? I believe they keep your electronic records for 3-5 years and could at minimum provide you with a certified 3 page summary. I think that summary and your FEF are the most critical items anyway.


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JohnUtah 12-29-2017 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by NewOldGuy (Post 2491411)
Have you tried contacting the HARMS office from your last duty base? I believe they keep your electronic records for 3-5 years and could at minimum provide you with a certified 3 page summary. I think that summary and your FEF are the most critical items anyway.


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I did and they no longer have it. I have the summary now with all my individual totals, etc, just not the line by line report. Luckily I made an electronic copy of all my Form 8s, OPRs and Flight Summary the day I separated.

KC10 FATboy 12-29-2017 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by JohnUtah (Post 2491099)
Thanks, I worry about that because I don't have my complete AF flying history report. The people who stole my safe were nice enough to take it too. Only have my one page flying history report, Form 8s and OPRs, which I made electronic copies of but dont have my line by line stuff any longer so hope that isn't a deal breaker. I do have my complete civilian logs though.

Trust me, you only need the total sheet with all of your qualms and flying totals.

KC10 FATboy 12-29-2017 01:04 PM

Quals!!! Dang autocorrect.

Hacker15e 12-30-2017 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 2489299)
2018 is certainly going to be an interesting year for pilot hiring. With many big airlines increasing their needs, 420 jobs at FDX is simply amazing. That means for three years, FDX will have hired 30% of its pilot workforce. Crazy.

So, will they all be going to the 757?

KC10 FATboy 12-30-2017 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Hacker15e (Post 2491925)
So, will they all be going to the 757?

Maybe.

The Union’s wording sent to the pilots.

“Until the next System Bid, any individuals receiving new employment offer letters will be hired into the 57FM crew position only.”

Does that mean new hires are going into the 757 until the next bid is posted or until the results are posted?

The letter the company sent to the pilots says the following:

“Between the close of this system bid, and the February/March 2018 timeframe ( where we expect the next system bid) any new hire pilots receiving offer letters will be hired into the 57FM crew position.”

System Bid 17-02 closed December 4th.

Skippy320 12-30-2017 09:08 AM

What results were in the system bid?

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Nightflyer 12-30-2017 09:20 AM

It has not happened yet.

It will happen in Feb or Mar, unless they change their mind.

Skippy320 12-30-2017 09:23 AM

Was just looking were it was stated it closed Dec 4 on the previous post.

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NewOldGuy 12-30-2017 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Skippy320 (Post 2491990)
Was just looking were it was stated it closed Dec 4 on the previous post.

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That was a limited bid. Limited to MEM 75 and HKG only. Results were published already.


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KC10 FATboy 12-30-2017 09:59 AM

So was the December 11th class all 757FMs?

Nope. Again the company getting away with stuff they shouldn’t.

NewOldGuy 12-30-2017 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 2492017)
So was the December 11th class all 757FMs?

Nope. Again the company getting away with stuff they shouldn’t.


The statement said offer letters, not class start. I think technically they all had their offer letters prior. Everyone I know (only 3 people personally) who got offers after we’re told 75.


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KC10 FATboy 12-30-2017 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by NewOldGuy (Post 2492029)
The statement said offer letters, not class start. I think technically they all had their offer letters prior. Everyone I know (only 3 people personally) who got offers after we’re told 75.


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They always get you with the language at FedEx. So how many received their offer letters before the agreement was signed and or the bid closed?

mempurpleflyer 12-30-2017 03:06 PM

Current training letters show all new hires going to the 757. I counted 102 spots yet to be filled between late Jan and the end of Jun 2018.

Temocil27 12-30-2017 03:20 PM

Great news for current 757 FOs

busdriver12 12-31-2017 04:42 PM

I have a friend who is putting in his application soon. What is the name of Albie's company, again, anyone? Seems very worthwhile to get some prep.

Skippy320 12-31-2017 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 2492846)
I have a friend who is putting in his application soon. What is the name of Albie's company, again, anyone? Seems very worthwhile to get some prep.

Emerald coast

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FlyingOkra 12-31-2017 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 2492846)
I have a friend who is putting in his application soon. What is the name of Albie's company, again, anyone? Seems very worthwhile to get some prep.

Emerald Coast Interview Consulting

https://emeraldcoastinterviewconsulting.com/

He’ll also need RST for his Day 1 Prep

https://readysettakeoff.com/

busdriver12 12-31-2017 05:10 PM

Thanks, you two!

Crazy Canuck 01-08-2018 11:52 PM

Can anyone shed some light on the “age-experience matrix” I keep hearing about? I’m fairly young, have 4600 TT, 1000 tpic (non part 121), and 900 B767. Been updating my app, and I keep hearing how I’m right in that envelope FedEx likes but only crickets so far. Keeping hopeful!


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