I was 28 with similar quals (although all 121 TPIC) when I got the call last year.

Thanks for the input. Did you have an LOR or any job fair attendance?

I don't believe that letters of recommendation are holding any value these days. A Personal Endorsement (PE) is what you're looking for.

Do the people telling you about it have any involvement in the hiring at FedEx?

The 767 time is impressive, but the 1000 PIC (not 121) seems light compared to some of the guys hired recently.

Many (but not all) straight 121 guys have LCA experience. I haven't looked too specifically, but almost every military guy hired has some IP and many have evaluator time as well.

There are exceptions to every rule, but for 121 hopefuls I think the LCA qual or training experience are big helps.

Unwritten rule at FedEx for getting hired: Must have some background instructing in aviation, whether military or civilian.

Zero. Don't know a soul here.

Is FDX still waiting until within 30 days availability to call? Seems like that’s the experience of most I’ve talked to.

Last year at the OBAP FedEx presentation, HR said they won’t call until you are available.

I was hired in late 2017 and don't even have my instructor license. Average 4 year college degree, 121, non check airman, 1,600 PIC at the regionals guy. And I got the MD11. Keep updating your resume guys, the call will come. I did have an endorsement or whatever they call it from a FedEx friend.

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I can’t stand this practice by HR. It totally contrary to everyone needed to support themselves let alone a family. Don’t know about you but retiring from the military I wanted to have a job offer BEFORE I stopped getting paid for my last one. Everyone I knew advised me to make my available date earlier than actual. Change it online after you get the call.


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So you’re advocating they lie on their application? It may have worked for you, but I would not risk it.

I want a private jet and limo to take me to my box seats at the Superbowl every year......... but there's that pesky reality thing.

I bailed off AD, guard bummed with no health insurance for my wife and two kids for 8 months until I got an airline to call. While the retirement check might not be all someone needs and tricare might be inconvenient, stepping out the door with a military retirement is a far cry from that. Airlines are trying to fill classes and it's Fedex's prerogative to wait until they can get a definitive answer from someone rather than build a pool. It sure as hell isn't their job to sprinkle the way in rose petals between retirement and Indoc for everyone transitioning from the military. Maybe they'll change their policy if it appears to result in missing out on good candidates, but until then it's their sandbox. Misrepresenting one's availability is a sure fire way to close the door on FedEx for good.

I love hearing stories about the guys who were still on terminal leave when they started Indoc. Good for them. Not everyone is that lucky and expecting it is pretty ridiculous out here in the real world, IMO.

Yes, it’s FedEx’s prerogative. Doesn’t mean I have to agree with it. Fedex is passing up good people for not building a pool. IMO


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1. You are still getting paid.
2. This is terrible advice.

Yeah, FedEx really likes it when you lie:rolleyes:. And folks wonder why FedEx questions people about mil leave. It's guys doing this kind of stuff that hoses others.

For FX applicants reading this thread:

You can want, but then there is reality.

The only thing you have control over is to set a retirement date, and work everything else around that. Have a backup plan if you don't get that dream interview/job before your date comes around.

Lots of us have had to do exactly this and we have made it work.

Well, that was bad gouge...and for any applicants reading this advice, *do not do it.*

In summer '16 there was a rash of this going on, and the FX pilot hiring folks responded to it by having hard copies of applications both before and after the call...and those who fudged their availability dates were dis-invited to their interviews.

Albie posted about this on The Pilot Network, and maybe here, too, with more details back in July-ish '16.

The company knows about this practice and doesn't like it...and responds to it accordingly.

Ahh, yes, another fine quality of the Entitled Generation. It's OK to lie as long as it benefits ME.


It troubles me that military officers lack integrity.

Greatly troubles.




Your opinion, in my opinion, is worthless.

I appreciate it when FedEx weeds out liars.

Your parents are, no doubt, so proud of you.






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FedEx REALLY DOESN'T like folks that lie! If you ever want a job here I wouldn't risk it ...

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Our new pilot recruitment director came over from legal. All she did for over a decade prior to that job was be part of the team that was responsible for investigatin, discipline, and occasionally termination of pilots. That constant exposure to the 1% of our pilot group has to have an impact on how the rest of us are potentially percieved. It has to have been a tough, miserable job at times. While I do not think anyone in HR would be sympathetic to lying on one’s application, I think the current adminstration would be even less tolerant of any such ethical breaches.

I think most posters here have made it clear that was dangerous/bad advice.

I work for FedEx express part time as a courier and fly full time cfi and charter.....I'm pretty sure we need pilots right now badly. This last week alone we had our second memphis plane cancelled 3 days that comes into PHL because of pilot running out of hours. Our management tells us we don't have enough pilots right now, and that crews are running out of hours. Not sure how true this is and all? Any fedex pilot clarify this??

Pretty sure those cancellations this past week were due to the 2 winter storm events in MEM. Guys probably ran out of duty time (very long wait to de-ice) or no aircraft. We do need pilots due to the ongoing retirements and maybe some growth.

thanks for the reply....is it possible for an employee like me who has a BA degree and all my ratings done to come back to fly for fedex one day? Obviously I know that I have to go somewhere to build that multi PIC turbine time but would it be easier getting hired back once I reach minimums? It's been my lifelong goal to fly for fedex one day and have been with the company for over 10 years now. I'm doing everything I can to stick with the company as long as possible while instructing and charter flying. Any advice, suggestions, or help appreciated.

Two guys in my new hire class were former ramp personelle, but also came from other airlines...keep building those hours!

thanks! what are minimums? Is it still 1000 Multi turbine time PIC?

Of course it is! Keep building hours to make sure you meet all the quals. We have many pilots that threw boxes, etc. to get their foot in the door back when you got a preferred path to an interview. I don't think that's the case anymore; I'll let someone in the know about internal pilot hiring discuss that. Be persistent. Network with line pilots to maybe get a Personal Endorsement.

Qualifications

Commercial Pilot Certificate with Multi-engine and Instrument rating without limitations
ATP Certificate
Must pass FAA mandated drug screen
Must have 20/20 correctable vision
Recency and type of experience is considered
Meet requirements for and currently hold First Class Medical certification
Bachelor's Degree from an accredited college or university
Eligibility for rapid visa issuance, issued by offices in the United States to fly to any FedEx destination.
Eligibility for issuance of US Security Clearance
1500 hours total fixed-wing time as pilot-in-command (PIC) or second-in-command in multi-engine turbo-prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof (GTOW 12,500). A minimum of 1000 hours total fixed-wing pilot-in-command in multi-engine turbo prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof (GTOW 12,500 or greater) is preferred. Note: PIC for this purpose is defined as Captain/Aircraft Commander of record, not simply the sole manipulator of the controls. Note: FedEx considers only pilot time in fixed wing aircraft toward minimum qualifications. This does not include simulator, helicopter, flight engineer, bombardier, navigator, RIO, EWO, WSO, NFO, or Special Crew.
All certificates and ratings required to be U.S.A. FAA issued

Thank You!! I was always wondering if fedex has or would have some type of career path program for employees who would want to fly for them one day.

What is the timeframe from CJO to class start dates lately?

I interviewed in the middle of May 2017 and got a CJO five days later. The days of same-day CJO after day two interview are over. I started class toward the end of July. So, for me it was a little over two months. It could be shorter for those willing to take Cologne or Hong Kong.

Latest is 450-500 new hires

Thanks Albie, I always appreciate your input. The 1000 tpic was Canada's version of part 121, but since it was techincally not part 121 I don't get to log it as so. And it was in a turboprop.

Fortunately I am upgrading on the 767 soon and will have a chance to get some PIC time there.

Does anyone have any info about the MEM job fair in May?

Any idea where newhires in the next few months will be going? I heard 757 domestic and (some) MD-11 only. Any newhires going straight to HKG or 777?

Sounds like we may all know more in a few weeks.

Only to the 757 until the next bid closes.

Hong long would a newhire have to wait before getting HKG, if he/she wasnt given HKG right away? Thanks

Let them know you want to go to HKG and you will most likely go immediately. Otherwise, it would be on the next available bid.

System bids at Purple appear to be substantially less frequent than at many of the passenger carriers.

The last open system bid was in early 2016, and the next one is rumored to be occurring this spring. There have been a handful of smaller, specialized bids in between that time (a bid to fill Euro 75 seats, a 76 Capt bid, etc).

They did put new hires in the A-300 and MD-11 this month (Jan '18), but most are slated for the 757.

Heard from Flt Stnds for Feb for the system bid. They do seem to drag them later in the spring but they had a board meeting last week.

Thank you all re HKG/System bid. I have been doing contracts in Asia and would like to come home. But the fam is not ready (respecting my wife's career wishes). Getting HKG would be ideal but sounds like it could be MEM for a couple years too. Any advice?

Thought you coudnt fly for FEDEX if u have lived outside the US within the last ten years?