Insufficient Reserves
09-24-2015, 11:24 PM
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Insufficient Reserves
I've read through Section 25 and there is some new options for BLA's and more transparency as far as Reserve Leveling and BLA inputs on specific trips.
That said, I do not see anything that prevents the company from continuing with their abuse of Insufficient Reserves, either when trying to move or drop R-Days, attempting to drop a trip, trading for a trip in Open Time, or stuffing Open Time with Stand By Periods during peak
Am I missing something or will approval of this TA constitute another eight to ten years of the same old BOHICA on the subject of Insufficient Reserves?
That said, I do not see anything that prevents the company from continuing with their abuse of Insufficient Reserves, either when trying to move or drop R-Days, attempting to drop a trip, trading for a trip in Open Time, or stuffing Open Time with Stand By Periods during peak
Am I missing something or will approval of this TA constitute another eight to ten years of the same old BOHICA on the subject of Insufficient Reserves?
09-24-2015, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwa Washi
I've read through Section 25 and there is some new options for BLA's and more transparency as far as Reserve Leveling and BLA inputs on specific trips.
That said, I do not see anything that prevents the company from continuing with their abuse of Insufficient Reserves, either when trying to move or drop R-Days, attempting to drop a trip, trading for a trip in Open Time, or stuffing Open Time with Stand By Periods during peak
Am I missing something or will approval of this TA constitute another eight to ten years of the same old BOHICA on the subject of Insufficient Reserves?
That said, I do not see anything that prevents the company from continuing with their abuse of Insufficient Reserves, either when trying to move or drop R-Days, attempting to drop a trip, trading for a trip in Open Time, or stuffing Open Time with Stand By Periods during peak
Am I missing something or will approval of this TA constitute another eight to ten years of the same old BOHICA on the subject of Insufficient Reserves?
If you don't trust the company now, why would you trust them under a new TA to not give you the same old, "insufficient reserves"
09-25-2015, 12:59 AM
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So, NO, we did not get real-time trip trading. It is to protect PMU, from what the company says.
But PMU is a joke - it is a golden anchor used to get us to agree to the company system.
As in, companies with more than twice the number of pilots from different companies and using 60's era green screens have still managed to get real time trip trading to the fore. Why?
Because the pilots demanded it and expected it.
Why do we not expect it? Because that's the way it has been.
And again, BS. Before the last contract, you could not see where you were on the reserve list, even though other airlines let you see exact positions and trips available.
We "won" the ability to see where you were on the reserve list, but that came with caveats....
Now we get some horse hockey about reserves, but still are screwed.
No thank you.
But PMU is a joke - it is a golden anchor used to get us to agree to the company system.
As in, companies with more than twice the number of pilots from different companies and using 60's era green screens have still managed to get real time trip trading to the fore. Why?
Because the pilots demanded it and expected it.
Why do we not expect it? Because that's the way it has been.
And again, BS. Before the last contract, you could not see where you were on the reserve list, even though other airlines let you see exact positions and trips available.
We "won" the ability to see where you were on the reserve list, but that came with caveats....
Now we get some horse hockey about reserves, but still are screwed.
No thank you.
09-25-2015, 07:21 AM
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Sec 25 is my big Hang up on the TA. They threw some minor money at revisions, but no commitment to a certain number of reserves, no ability to say no to revisions, no limit to number of hotel or airport standbys in open time during peak or other periods of low manning. We are at the companies mercy after checkin. You can still get released at noon to fly an all night trip on b reserve.
Crs runs the schedule with this " fix the now, don't worry about the later" mentality and relies on this Swiss cheese language, causing people to miss things they have planned and bid around.
I don't see any fix in this TA for this.
Crs runs the schedule with this " fix the now, don't worry about the later" mentality and relies on this Swiss cheese language, causing people to miss things they have planned and bid around.
I don't see any fix in this TA for this.
09-25-2015, 10:11 AM
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Insufficient reserves?
Surely I'm not the only pilot that routinely (almost always!) get EVERY schedule modification denied for INSUFFICIENT RESERVES?
We can see that there are almost no trips in OPEN TIME and we can see how many folks are on RESERVE. THERE ARE PLENTY OF RESERVES and we are getting jerked around. There's nothing we can do about it and CRS and Management know that, so ...
My guess is that when the Schedulers are sifting through open time, their computer defaults (they don't have to select anything, INSUFFICIENT RESERVES is already displayed) to that setting and all they have to do it hit "RETURN." Next request ... "RETURN" ... they might be able to process 30 requests/minute without putting down their coffee!*?
This might have been a no cost fix during negotiations, maybe we can fix it the next time? We need some sort of transparent formula that can't be unreasonably denied. Something that we can go back and QA and file a dispute against if improperly processed.
It seems like REAL TIME TRIP TRADES would be simple computer programming (maybe a High School extra credit project?). Heck, the ObamaCare programmers might be able to handle that one, let's put this in there also!
Please?
We can see that there are almost no trips in OPEN TIME and we can see how many folks are on RESERVE. THERE ARE PLENTY OF RESERVES and we are getting jerked around. There's nothing we can do about it and CRS and Management know that, so ...
My guess is that when the Schedulers are sifting through open time, their computer defaults (they don't have to select anything, INSUFFICIENT RESERVES is already displayed) to that setting and all they have to do it hit "RETURN." Next request ... "RETURN" ... they might be able to process 30 requests/minute without putting down their coffee!*?
This might have been a no cost fix during negotiations, maybe we can fix it the next time? We need some sort of transparent formula that can't be unreasonably denied. Something that we can go back and QA and file a dispute against if improperly processed.
It seems like REAL TIME TRIP TRADES would be simple computer programming (maybe a High School extra credit project?). Heck, the ObamaCare programmers might be able to handle that one, let's put this in there also!
Please?
09-25-2015, 11:32 AM
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Don't worry just vote YES!!! I'm sure the loose language and elimination of many existing rules will improve QOL for us. I'm sure putting 20% of our lines under a new secondary line system (PBS) that we have no rules for yet will make everything better. Just trust CD and the negotiating committee, daytime cubicle flying for at least a 100 hours a month is a great deal if you can get it.
09-25-2015, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXAV8R
Don't worry just vote YES!!! I'm sure the loose language and elimination of many existing rules will improve QOL for us. I'm sure putting 20% of our lines under a new secondary line system (PBS) that we have no rules for yet will make everything better. Just trust CD and the negotiating committee, daytime cubicle flying for at least a 100 hours a month is a great deal if you can get it.
Hey AV8R,
I am a solid NO vote. But your childish name calling must stop..
These folks are all LINE pilots doing a thankless task. If it's such a great deal I EXPECT your name in the ring when we vote this TA down. I wouldn't volunteer for that job in a 100 years. I appreciate each and every one of them, even if I completely disagree. Attack the TA not the people....Reminds me of people crapping all over the Ints/Flex guys.....feel free to do the job...they are hiring....
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