Look at how non-pilots would view this.

Our MEC voted unanimously to support the regulated age change to 65.

Yet we still want full benefits at 60.

That's having your cake and eating it too. But we're special, I guess.....

I guess we're special enough to be aware that there's no point in having the cake unless you can eat it.

Though I don't consider the age change to 65 to be a good thing, overall, in any respect.

I got hired here knowing I could retire at 60 with full benefits. If the change to 65 lets me retire at 60 with full benefits I will take it. I would rather not croak working to 65.

And, the MEC voted to change the regulated age to 65, not the contractual language of 60 for full retirement.

The regulated age changed by Act of Congress, not MEC vote.

Packrat, I hoped we had seen the last of your "additions" to our discussions when you finally stopped posting here during our TA threads. While your posts seem on the surface to be reasonable, they often have a very tin-ear type of input and seem to be made just to increase your post count.

I know exactly what the poster was referencing. Thanks for your unneeded "correction". If you were really in the know, you would have had an idea that he didn't need to be corrected. He just wasn't verbose and didn't write an extra paragraph--most of us knew what he was referencing without him having to spell it out.

You also made an earlier post in this thread. Not so bad on the face of it either, but if you had read the message on our company website you wouldn't have written what you did--once again, you didn't add anything to our discussion.

I have seen you post in virtually every forum. Quite a few of them have taken you to task as you make pronouncements on subjects you just don't really have a clue about. Does any of the "feedback" you've received site-wide make a difference to you?

And, the MEC voted to agree to the change in the regulated age to 65.

Hows that?

Our MEC voted to drop opposition to the Regulated Age change IF certain conditions were met, and they were.

Our MEMBERSHIP voted to raise the Normal Retirement Age to 62 in exchange for ... nothing.






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What ALPA had changed was the verbiage to say "active flight deck crew member" --- this was critical to Fedex because it allowed those over 60, who were no longer acting as pilots, they were acting as Flight Engineers (a totally separate license) to return to flying

This small change in verbiage is what allowed those over 60 and on property to become eligible to fly a front seat again if the company put out a bid --- which they did

Regarding our Normal Retirement Age, one can still retire fully without penalty at age 60

However, the funding source may be different (qualified vs non qualified)

Now just wondering out loud --- does this difference have any tax affects on the retired pilot?

I haven't spent anytime researching yet

I hope ALPA did

Only if they delay their first check. Now does that sound like a CBA restriction or a retirement law provision.

Better. Words mean things.

That's just not right. Never give away work rules. You can always recover pay rates but once work rules are gone, they're gone forever.