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iarapilot 06-16-2016 06:49 AM

It has all been decided at the latest Bilderberg get together. Now they just have to make the vote count go their way. :)

azoomietheist 06-16-2016 08:01 AM

You "Union Republicans" crack me up. :D

If Fred could have gotten away with cutting your pay in half, he would have done so. But hey, lets vote for him for VP.

Trump is going down. Hard. It only remains to be seen if he takes the House and the Senate with him, or just the Senate.

We will be stuck with HRC for 8 years. Better the devil you know...

olly 06-16-2016 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by 11man (Post 2145591)
Actually trump and smith are on the furthest ends of the spectrum. Trump has publicly declared he wants to get rid of imports by over taxation. That would basically kill all international flying. Be careful what everyone wishes for this November. You might save on your taxes but then again you might give up your job with a big bump and flush. Can't say I can pull the lever for hill, but sure can't pull it for someone on record that wants to hurt my livelihood.


Originally Posted by threeighteen (Post 2145598)
What (insert any of the worthless candidates here) wants to do, says they will do, and what they can actually get away with are three completely unrelated concepts.

I would concur, Mr. Trumps positions are anathema to Fred's business principals. Larry Summers, former Secretary of the Treasury, Presidential Advisor, Harvard President, and renowned economist wrote this last week:

** I believe the risks to the U.S. and global economies of Trump’s election as president of the United States are far greater. Indeed, if he were elected, I would expect a protracted recession to begin within 18 months. The damage would in all likelihood be felt far beyond the United States. Here’s why.

First, there is a substantial risk of highly erratic policy. Trump has raised the possibility of more than $10 trillion in tax cuts, which would threaten U.S. fiscal stability. He has also raised the possibility of the United States restructuring its debt in the manner of a failed real estate developer. Perhaps this is just campaign rhetoric. But historical research suggests that, contrary to popular belief, presidents tend to carry out their major campaign promises. The shadowboxingover raising the debt limit in 2011 (where all participants recognized the danger of default) was central to the stock market falling by 17 percent. A president with an entirely reckless fiscal program and an openness to restructuring debt could damage confidence and markets in the short run and the creditworthiness of the country and centrality of the dollar over the longer term.

Second, in a world economy defined by global integration, Trump’s economic nationalism is highly dangerous. Exports have been a major driver of the U.S. economy in recent years. What would happen to them if we built a wall along our southern border and abrogated all our trade treaties? How would other countries react? The failure of the Trans-Pacific Partnership would be the least of the international economic problems brought about by a Trump presidency. Withdrawal from trade agreements does not currently require congressional approval. If Trump did even half of what he has promised, he would surely set off the worst trade war since the Depression.

Third, prosperity depends on a secure geopolitical environment. Requiring Japan and Korea to defend themselves and scaling back NATO is a prescription for both emboldening China and Russia and promoting nuclear proliferation as our allies seek to become self-sufficient. A perception that the United States is at war with Islam rather than with radical elements within Islam is an invitation to terrorism. In such an environment, it is hardly likely that investment and trade would flourish.

Fourth, Trump’s authoritarian style and cult of personality surely would take a toll on business confidence. He has proposed to bring back torture as a tool of U.S. foreign policy and to change the law so he can sue and punish publications he does not like. The country was paralyzed by the Watergate scandal and, to a lesser extent, Iran-Contra, both of which involved extralegal activity by the president’s staff and the abuse of government power. Who would rest secure with President Trump controlling the FBI, CIA and IRS?

Finally, there is the question of uncertainty and confidence. Improving business confidence is the cheapest form of stimulus. Creating an environment where every tradition of the rule of law, internationalism and consistency in policy is up for grabs would be the best way to damage a still-fragile U.S. economy. In no election in my lifetime has a major-party candidate for president been so dangerous for the economy. Markets now are discounting the possibility of a Trump presidency. Let us all pray they are right.

cwjflyer20 06-16-2016 09:27 AM

Politics and religion two of the best topics to discuss in the cockpit or at a party.

What I find funny, is that when this does come up at work how hard core right wing Limbaugh quoting bible slamming some are.
The same people who: wear a uniform, get paid by the hr, work via a contract, are mandatory union members, and once had lockers in a locker room. By definition Democrats.

My reply to change the conversation is usually something about sports, hobbies etc.

A long time ago as an FE on the 10, I was overwhelmed by a female Capt. She was some kind of Libertarian, and she did not pay taxes. She even gave me some literature. She is long gone.

I have also gone to dinner with some who must pray and wont drink a beer. Baptists. This is OK. I myself am an Oldsmobile man. It just doesn't come up at dinner. I don't try to get you to sell your Honda, Chevy, Mopar whatever.

So please, lets get back to aviation.

Have you ever noticed that the AOC is on Democrat road and one light down toward the big building is Republican road. Nice way to play both sides.

Packrat 06-16-2016 09:33 AM

What I can't figure out is why this thread is even here since political postings are a specific violation of the TOS. I guess it's OK if you're a Republican and can work in an attack on the President.

tomgoodman 06-16-2016 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2146140)
What I can't figure out is why this thread is even here since political postings are a specific violation of the TOS.

What do political posts, underboob posts, and crabgrass have in common? :D

cwjflyer20 06-16-2016 09:55 AM

If political posts were banned Jungle ( Hunter S Thompson) would have long ago been exiled.

Rock 06-16-2016 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by olly (Post 2146088)
I would concur, Mr. Trumps positions are anathema to Fred's business principals. Larry Summers, former Secretary of the Treasury, Presidential Advisor, Harvard President, and renowned economist wrote this last week:

** I believe the risks to the U.S. and global economies of Trump’s blah blah blah.

He WAS Harvard President until he left after a no-confidence vote by the Harvard faculty. Not sure why that part isn't listed in his creditionals. And he served under the Clinton administration and as an economic advisor to Obama. And he doesn't like Trump?!?!? <insert shocked face>. Someone ask Mr. Summer's what he thinks of a $21 trillion dollar national debt. Most of which has accumulated during his tenure as Obama's economic advisor.
:rolleyes:

TonyC 06-16-2016 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by cwjflyer20 (Post 2146135)

Politics and religion two of the best topics to discuss in the cockpit or at a party.

What I find funny, is that when this does come up at work how hard core right wing Limbaugh quoting bible slamming some are.
The same people who: wear a uniform, get paid by the hr, work via a contract, are mandatory union members, and once had lockers in a locker room. By definition Democrats.


What I find funny is how you can lambast others' political views and in the same breath declare your own opinions to be fact.



Originally Posted by cwjflyer20 (Post 2146135)

My reply to change the conversation is usually something about sports, hobbies etc.

A long time ago as an FE on the 10, I was overwhelmed by a female Capt. She was some kind of Libertarian, and she did not pay taxes. She even gave me some literature. She is long gone.


If by "long gone" you mean retired, you're correct. When the IRS took her to court, she won. Do you still have that literature?




Originally Posted by cwjflyer20 (Post 2146135)

I have also gone to dinner with some who must pray and wont drink a beer. Baptists. This is OK. I myself am an Oldsmobile man. It just doesn't come up at dinner. I don't try to get you to sell your Honda, Chevy, Mopar whatever.

So please, lets get back to aviation.


What, no love for Pontiac? Oldsmobiles, like Pontiac, are history. GM killed the Oldsmobile, but who was it that killed the Pontiac, deeming it a loser? Was it those "hard core right wing Limbaugh quoting bible slamming" conservatives?




Originally Posted by cwjflyer20 (Post 2146135)

Have you ever noticed that the AOC is on Democrat road and one light down toward the big building is Republican road. Nice way to play both sides.


Yepp, and the "Falcon building" is on the corner of Republican Dr. and Independent Dr. The streets were there when Uncle Fred was still peddling his idea to the Little Rock Airport Authority. Republican Dr. and Independent Dr. are hardly recognizable now as parking lots, hangars, and the 350s gates have mostly obliterated those streets, and we've managed to evict most other inhabitants of Democrat Rd., including the IRS, which used to occupy our current home at 3131. When the AOC was on Sprankle Are, taxpayers in the Southeast Region were mailing their tax returns to 3131 Democrat Rd. Even Vernie.



Oh, by the way ... at the risk of exceeding my daily quota of posts ...


Are you a veteran FedEx pilot, having flown with Vernie when you were an oiler on the -10, or are you a military veteran, passed over, still working on your 20? Your posting history is conflicting.

From Jan 01, 2016, 1634 CST :

Originally Posted by cwjflyer20 (Post 2039806)

I must be Jewish: Sos Check, ACSC check good OPR's. Good years. No promotion. I seem to celebrate Passover every year. I've seen many academy grads get promoted. They could not fly well. They did not work well with others. But, they had the Ring.

So I just fly the jet and I'm OK with that. Ill get my 20. Then a flying job....I hope. To me a bad day in the jet is better than any meeting or cubicle.



So, which is it? Are you actually one of the two and posing as the other, or posing as both?






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Jetjok 06-16-2016 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by cwjflyer20 (Post 2146135)
So please, lets get back to aviation.

I agree 100%.

So has anyone flown with Donald Trump? :D


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