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FlexjetCareers 03-27-2018 01:57 PM

Flexjet careers
 
We've noticed a lot of questions regarding the hiring process on these forums and thought we would provide a channel for you to ask your questions. We know it can be difficult to get info on the company and hope to make it easier with a new pilot recruitment website, posting here, social media, etc. With that said, our team of recruiters and pilots will be happy to answer any questions you have.

Our job listings can be seen at www.flexjet.com/careers/pilots

We can also be reached directly at [email protected].

We'll share everything we can. Fractional flying is different than most anything out there and is not for everyone. We're here to give you the info you need to make a good decision.

Some of the best info will be shared with you in person so please do not hesitate to stop our crews out on the road and ask questions.

fooled2x 03-30-2018 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by FlexjetCareers (Post 2560007)
We've noticed a lot of questions regarding the hiring process on these forums and thought we would provide a channel for you to ask your questions. We know it can be difficult to get info on the company and hope to make it easier with a new pilot recruitment website, posting here, social media, etc. With that said, our team of recruiters and pilots will be happy to answer any questions you have.

Our job listings can be seen at www.flexjet.com/careers/pilots

We can also be reached directly at [email protected].

We'll share everything we can. Fractional flying is different than most anything out there and is not for everyone. We're here to give you the info you need to make a good decision.

Some of the best info will be shared with you in person so please do not hesitate to stop our crews out on the road and ask questions.

Yep, just ask anybody wearing the horseheads and you can find out how things really are.

FlexjetCareers 03-30-2018 11:06 AM

Like we said, take in info from everyone you can. We're here to help, thank you for the advice.

GeeWizDriver 03-30-2018 02:31 PM

Wow, Kenn has his lackeys recruiting HERE for pilots dumb enough to join his slave ship.

Run, quickly, in the other direction. There are better jobs out there. Even NutJets is a better choice than the dumpster fire at Flex.

In my opinion, anyway.

fooled2x 03-30-2018 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver (Post 2561964)
Wow, Kenn has his lackeys recruiting HERE for pilots dumb enough to join his slave ship.

Run, quickly, in the other direction. There are better jobs out there. Even NutJets is a better choice than the dumpster fire at Flex.

In my opinion, anyway.

Netjets is raising their pay and starting to hire the FO's ( and maybe Captains) away from Flex/Options. It's going to get interesting.

GeeWizDriver 03-30-2018 04:54 PM

If you are a pilot looking for a new job, the fact that nobody is leaving Netjets to go to Flex but some Flex pilots are leaving to come to Netjets should tell you what you need to know.


PS: In either case, if you’re under the age of 50 and employable, go freight, regional, or major if you can.

Macjet 03-30-2018 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver (Post 2562032)
If you are a pilot looking for a new job, the fact that nobody is leaving Netjets to go to Flex but some Flex pilots are leaving to come to Netjets should tell you what you need to know.


PS: In either case, if you’re under the age of 50 and employable, go freight, regional, or major if you can.

And people are leaving NJA to go anywhere else while no one is leaving a major to come to NJA is the other thing you need to know.

GeeWizDriver 03-30-2018 06:24 PM

True statement.

Jetlife 03-30-2018 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by fooled2x (Post 2561985)
Netjets is raising their pay and starting to hire the FO's ( and maybe Captains) away from Flex/Options. It's going to get interesting.

NetJets isn’t doing anything with pay.

GeeWizDriver 03-31-2018 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2562154)
NetJets isn’t doing anything with pay.

Yet...




A guy can dream, can’t he?

BluePAX 03-31-2018 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver (Post 2562032)

PS: In either case, if you’re under the age of 50 and employable, go freight, regional, or major if you can.

Years ago I took one look at the fractional life and it seemed a dead end. Too bad they haven't stayed ahead of the 121 world to attract young talent.

Jetlife 03-31-2018 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver (Post 2562178)
Yet...




A guy can dream, can’t he?

They will be reactionary like with everything else. I have a strong feeling that 2020 will come and the company will ask for concessions.

Fredturbo 03-31-2018 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by FlexjetCareers (Post 2560007)
We've noticed a lot of questions regarding the hiring process on these forums and thought we would provide a channel for you to ask your questions. We know it can be difficult to get info on the company and hope to make it easier with a new pilot recruitment website, posting here, social media, etc. With that said, our team of recruiters and pilots will be happy to answer any questions you have.

Our job listings can be seen at www.flexjet.com/careers/pilots

We can also be reached directly at [email protected].

We'll share everything we can. Fractional flying is different than most anything out there and is not for everyone. We're here to give you the info you need to make a good decision.

Some of the best info will be shared with you in person so please do not hesitate to stop our crews out on the road and ask questions.

Can you tell us why they are hiring?

GeeWizDriver 03-31-2018 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2562245)
They will be reactionary like with everything else. I have a strong feeling that 2020 will come and the company will ask for concessions.

I wish them luck with that. If it happens, it will be a whipsaw against no job at all because they’re downsizing in order to shut the doors.

Propilot77 03-31-2018 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Fredturbo (Post 2562262)
Can you tell us why they are hiring?

It's not for growth, that I can tell you for sure! The attrition is through the roof! Their answer will be growth, if they answer at all.

David Puddy 03-31-2018 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Fredturbo (Post 2562262)
Can you tell us why they are hiring?

Because the airlines (including some of the regionals) offer a much more compelling and lucrative career path these days...

Fredturbo 04-01-2018 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Propilot77 (Post 2562570)
It's not for growth, that I can tell you for sure! The attrition is through the roof! Their answer will be growth, if they answer at all.

Odds we get a straight answer?

BlackPaw 04-01-2018 09:35 AM

Real pilots take.
 
I fly here and would like to try and balance the information for people considering FJ.

First of all, just like everywhere else I’ve researched on APC most of the negativity comes from just a couple people that may or may not have multiple usernames and post over and over.

Pick any company on this site, even Legacy’s, there’s always a few sad people that just keep complaining and complaining.

I came here despite all of the negative reviews with the above in mind and the majority of it is complete BS.

I’m at the bottom of the seniority list and get 14-16 days off per month, and rather than spending that time on here bad mouthing the company I spend that time enjoying life like the majority of the other FJ pilots.

In my opinion this is an excellent place to fly with good equipment, good pay and a great quality of life.

Fredturbo 04-01-2018 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by BlackPaw (Post 2562855)
I fly here and would like to try and balance the information for people considering FJ.

First of all, just like everywhere else I’ve researched on APC most of the negativity comes from just a couple people that may or may not have multiple usernames and post over and over.

Pick any company on this site, even Legacy’s, there’s always a few sad people that just keep complaining and complaining.

I came here despite all of the negative reviews with the above in mind and the majority of it is complete BS.

I’m at the bottom of the seniority list and get 14-16 days off per month, and rather than spending that time on here bad mouthing the company I spend that time enjoying life like the majority of the other FJ pilots.

In my opinion this is an excellent place to fly with good equipment, good pay and a great quality of life.

Curious as to your flying experience and when you were hired.

BlackPaw 04-01-2018 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Fredturbo (Post 2562886)
Curious as to your flying experience and when you were hired.


I’ve seen the cargo and regional life and I can assure you, in my opinion, this is significantly better.

You’re welcome to PM me as well.

Macjet 04-01-2018 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Fredturbo (Post 2562886)
Curious as to your flying experience and when you were hired.

Same here.

BlackPaw 04-01-2018 12:30 PM

Charter and Regional, within the last two years on how long I’ve been here.

GeeWizDriver 04-01-2018 03:38 PM

What does Ricci kool-aid taste like?

NJ ain’t perfect by a long shot. But Kenn is enshrined forever in the pantheon of truly heinous bosses.

You’ll learn soon enough young padawan.

fooled2x 04-02-2018 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by BlackPaw (Post 2562855)
I fly here and would like to try and balance the information for people considering FJ.

First of all, just like everywhere else I’ve researched on APC most of the negativity comes from just a couple people that may or may not have multiple usernames and post over and over.

Pick any company on this site, even Legacy’s, there’s always a few sad people that just keep complaining and complaining.

I came here despite all of the negative reviews with the above in mind and the majority of it is complete BS.

I’m at the bottom of the seniority list and get 14-16 days off per month, and rather than spending that time on here bad mouthing the company I spend that time enjoying life like the majority of the other FJ pilots.

In my opinion this is an excellent place to fly with good equipment, good pay and a great quality of life.


You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I will remind you of a few inconvenient facts.
There still are Phenom 300 First Officers that were hired in 2001 that have not Had the chance to upgrade to Captain. For them to move to the right seat of a larger plane, prior to the fences coming down, they would have had to give up their collective bargaining rights and returned to an at-will employee.
I also want more time off too. I have over 300 hours in my PTO bank and they won't give me more than one vacation per year. Sad.

Jetlife 04-02-2018 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by BlackPaw (Post 2562855)
I fly here and would like to try and balance the information for people considering FJ.

First of all, just like everywhere else I’ve researched on APC most of the negativity comes from just a couple people that may or may not have multiple usernames and post over and over.

Pick any company on this site, even Legacy’s, there’s always a few sad people that just keep complaining and complaining.

I came here despite all of the negative reviews with the above in mind and the majority of it is complete BS.

I’m at the bottom of the seniority list and get 14-16 days off per month, and rather than spending that time on here bad mouthing the company I spend that time enjoying life like the majority of the other FJ pilots.

In my opinion this is an excellent place to fly with good equipment, good pay and a great quality of life.

So you operate in complete darkness to the reality around you... Fascinating!

Fredturbo 04-02-2018 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2563290)
So you operate in complete darkness to the reality around you... Fascinating!

Looks like hired in Jan 2018 and started flying 3 years ago. . :eek: yeah, that’s a good source of “reality.” 23 years old?

Blutarsky 04-02-2018 11:29 AM

The thing is, management got the list of pilots who sent in cards from frank. So there's a naughty and nice list. He may be doing this under duress...

WiskeyTango 04-02-2018 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by BlackPaw (Post 2562922)
Charter and Regional, within the last two years on how long I’ve been here.

BlackPaw you were hired in January. Three months ago. I’m glad you like it here so far but you would barely be out of training (if at all? I hear the wait for IOE is lengthly). You would not yet have a good idea of the schedules you can hold.

FlexjetCareers 04-09-2018 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver (Post 2561964)
Wow, Kenn has his lackeys recruiting HERE for pilots dumb enough to join his slave ship.

Run, quickly, in the other direction. There are better jobs out there. Even NutJets is a better choice than the dumpster fire at Flex.

In my opinion, anyway.

We have had great success with pilots who came from this forum. I guess we feel that all pilots are not "dumb" as you suggest. Thank you for the insight though.

FlexjetCareers 04-09-2018 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by BlackPaw (Post 2562922)
Charter and Regional, within the last two years on how long I’ve been here.

Thank you for sharing BlackPaw. This forum was meant to be an exchange of information to help those that are considering a career with Flexjet and we appreciate your honestly.

FlexjetCareers 04-09-2018 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Propilot77 (Post 2562570)
It's not for growth, that I can tell you for sure! The attrition is through the roof! Their answer will be growth, if they answer at all.

Growth is a big component of hiring right now. We have the normal attrition that any company has, retirements, etc. and would never suggest we don't. We anticipate approximately a net add of 20 airframes this year, which translates to a lot of hiring.

BTW, we will be at Organization of Black Airline Pilots (OBAP) 2018 OBAP SPRING CAREER FAIR - 2018 OBAP SPRING CAREER FAIR | Online Registration by Cvent and Future Active & Pilot Advisors (FAPA) FAPA.aero | Pilot Job Fairs in Las Vegas in May. If you have the opportunity, stop by. We will have recruiters and pilots available to answer your questions.

I hope this helps.

FlexjetCareers 04-09-2018 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Fredturbo (Post 2563362)
Looks like hired in Jan 2018 and started flying 3 years ago. . :eek: yeah, that’s a good source of “reality.” 23 years old?

Guess I don't see the merit in attacking someone's perspective and somehow making an attempt to bully them and their responses. That doesn't sound very inclusive.

fooled2x 04-09-2018 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by FlexjetCareers (Post 2568275)
Guess I don't see the merit in attacking someone's perspective and somehow making an attempt to bully them and their responses. That doesn't sound very inclusive.

Inclusive? You created a segregated program where many of the pilots can’t have a civilized conversation with the average pilot, let alone here at Flex. It’s nothing more than the Senior Flight Officer program with a different name. And BTW, you really look coll with 5 crooked stripes on you jacket.

bklynbacon 04-13-2018 11:35 AM

I attended the online career fair from aero crew solutions. The FlexJet recruiters said the mins are at 1500 (still prefer 2500). Is attrition that bad? or guys just getting picked up by mainline carriers that much...or a little of both perhaps...

PW535A 04-13-2018 01:16 PM

With an active drive to decertify the union, I'd seriously reconsider applying at FlexJet. If the union goes away, so does the contract. Not to mention the toxicity of the current work environment. In this hiring cycle, do yourself a favor and avoid this place.

FNGFO 04-13-2018 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by bklynbacon (Post 2571639)
I attended the online career fair from aero crew solutions. The FlexJet recruiters said the mins are at 1500 (still prefer 2500). Is attrition that bad? or guys just getting picked up by mainline carriers that much...or a little of both perhaps...

21% attrition and counting. Everyone bailing out is a 12-20 year pilot at Flex. They’re not jumping ship and restarting their careers because things are so rosey at Flight Options posing as Flexjet.

Blutarsky 04-14-2018 06:25 PM

As of last Wednesday there were 85 PRIA requests in CGF. People can't get out of here fast enough.

David Puddy 04-15-2018 09:27 AM

Which airlines are picking them up? SWA and Spirit? Plenty of other flying opportunities out there...

FNGFO 04-15-2018 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 2572689)
Which airlines are picking them up? SWA and Spirit? Plenty of other flying opportunities out there...

It makes more sense if you understand that the vast majority of the original Flexjet cadre resides near Dallas and isn’t in a great hurry to commute for life or relocate to one of the four corners of the country.

David Puddy 04-15-2018 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2572777)
It makes more sense if you understand that the vast majority of the original Flexjet cadre resides near Dallas and isn’t in a great hurry to commute for life or relocate to one of the four corners of the country.

Locally, American, American Eagle and Spirit are hiring - and I believe all offer a DFW base. SWA obviously has a DAL base but it is pretty senior. Seems like Spirit is hiring a lot of Netjets pilots as it continues to grow (3-4 year upgrades) - perhaps your Flexjet buddies should check it out!


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