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04-05-2020, 05:40 AM
#51
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
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Originally Posted by MinRest
Dude what is your deal?
How do you know what NJA flew on Friday? Also, air travel has been deemed an essential business. Essential businesses and bailout money are two different things. NJA isn't a part of the airline stimulus because they aren't an airline, plain and simple.
How do you know what NJA flew on Friday? Also, air travel has been deemed an essential business. Essential businesses and bailout money are two different things. NJA isn't a part of the airline stimulus because they aren't an airline, plain and simple.
04-05-2020, 05:58 AM
#52
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 85
Originally Posted by 727C47
let him be, these boards bring out all the pain, and angst , the fear , that many posters harbor about the present and the future, just wish him well.
04-05-2020, 05:59 AM
#53
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Posts: 116
Originally Posted by Guard
This is an interesting thread because XO flew more hours on Friday than NJA, which is 7 times bigger. Also if I am reading the news right NJA is not considered in the bailout money because all their jets have "owners" and thus they are not an "essential business" which can be used to transport supplies etc? They are managers of very wealthy peoples jets???? Pelosi said its time for Uncle Warren to open his own check book????
I suppose for some people the good Uncle Warren is only as good as his stake in the airlines. Oh wait..that's also been considerably diminished.
The people using the fractionals are the very ones who were investing heavily into our airline sector -leaders of industry. Hard to swallow, but these investors were probably more beneficial for the airlines than the unethical airline execs buying back their own stock in order to inflate the price and give each other rubs on the back with more green (company and employees be damned) What Pelosi said is irrelevant. I wouldn't be surprised if she had stock in BH herself;-) That's as far as I'll go down that rabbit hole.
As far as being essential, last I checked P135 ops are 'air carrier certificate holders' too and guess what these fractional guys do? They do both 135 and 91K. If I were them I probably wouldn't take any bailout money.
04-05-2020, 05:17 PM
#57
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: Retired NJA & AA
Posts: 1,919
Originally Posted by Guard
This is an interesting thread because XO flew more hours on Friday than NJA, which is 7 times bigger.
04-05-2020, 09:53 PM
#58
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 48
Originally Posted by AirBear
Is XO ferrying their crews around? If so that could explain it. NetJets is still using airlines and making contingency plans to go to a 30-31 hub system that places 90% of our pilots within 150 miles of a hub. Because we have a union contract our pilots can't be required to drive a rental car more than 150 miles or 3 hours. Now the company is asking 7&7 pilots to volunteer for tour slides to better align pilots from the same domicile. I think many pilots will be OK with that since most know the local pilots that fly the same type of jet and they'll have a better chance of starting/finishing tours in their domicile.
04-06-2020, 02:04 AM
#60
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 313
Originally Posted by TripleSpool
I suppose for some people the good Uncle Warren is only as good as his stake in the airlines. Oh wait..that's also been considerably diminished.
The people using the fractionals are the very ones who were investing heavily into our airline sector -leaders of industry. Hard to swallow, but these investors were probably more beneficial for the airlines than the unethical airline execs buying back their own stock in order to inflate the price and give each other rubs on the back with more green (company and employees be damned) What Pelosi said is irrelevant. I wouldn't be surprised if she had stock in BH herself;-) That's as far as I'll go down that rabbit hole.
As far as being essential, last I checked P135 ops are 'air carrier certificate holders' too and guess what these fractional guys do? They do both 135 and 91K. If I were them I probably wouldn't take any bailout money.
The people using the fractionals are the very ones who were investing heavily into our airline sector -leaders of industry. Hard to swallow, but these investors were probably more beneficial for the airlines than the unethical airline execs buying back their own stock in order to inflate the price and give each other rubs on the back with more green (company and employees be damned) What Pelosi said is irrelevant. I wouldn't be surprised if she had stock in BH herself;-) That's as far as I'll go down that rabbit hole.
As far as being essential, last I checked P135 ops are 'air carrier certificate holders' too and guess what these fractional guys do? They do both 135 and 91K. If I were them I probably wouldn't take any bailout money.
Last edited by Guard; 04-06-2020 at 02:31 AM.
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