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Old 03-23-2007, 08:17 AM
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This very afternoon you can get a loan for 90K at 8.25% thru Bank of America. Thats 90K @ 8.25% with zero origination fee.

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Try making those payments as a starting F/O......
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It can be done. Just pay the minimum and you'll be A-OK!!!

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It can be done. Just pay the minimum and you'll be A-OK!!!

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...and just maybe you can have it halfway paid out by the time your a senior capt. !!
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It can be done. Just pay the minimum and you'll be A-OK!!!

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Yeah, making minimum payments is definitely the way to reduce debt. That reminds me, I gotta back off on my car payment. I want to have to pay it off over the entire length of the loan, instead of getting done early.
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The reality is that senior captains at major airlines / SWA / UPS / etc are all willing to send their kids to ATP / Flight Safety / MESA so their kids can get ahead. Why shouldn't the average joe have the same opportunity?

Think about this...I had lunch with a retired 4 star. His son finished at ATP, went to Colgan , and is now interviewing with DAL and JB. 5 years ago his son was a 21 year old Georgetown senior now he's an airline captain about to make it to the majors.

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Think about this...I had lunch with a retired 4 star. His son finished at ATP, went to Colgan ...
That's great although your side-stepping the gist of YOUR post.

Amortize 90K at 8.25% over a 10 year repayment period and the payments are $1103 per month. IF one had the ability to start repayment a month after drawing on the loan, interest over the life of the loan would be over $42,000.
You would expect to have a deferment period while you complete training, although interest continues to accrue so the $42K interest is probably on the low side.

Your "good deal" will end up costing more than $150K over the life of the loan. This path to an airline job is complete and utter financial insanity.
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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer View Post
...senior captains at major airlines / SWA / UPS / etc are all willing to send their kids to ATP / Flight Safety / MESA so their kids can get ahead. ....

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Well I am extremely happy for them to have such an easy ride but you know what....I am putting myself through a 61 FBO while working 50+ hours a week, about to wrap up my CFI stuff, and I only have myself to thank. Plus I've been paying double back each month on my loan all the while.

I'm sorry but I have little respect for the guys who have everything handed to them.
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That's great although your side-stepping the gist of YOUR post.

Amortize 90K at 8.25% over a 10 year repayment period and the payments are $1103 per month. IF one had the ability to start repayment a month after drawing on the loan, interest over the life of the loan would be over $42,000.
You would expect to have a deferment period while you complete training, although interest continues to accrue so the $42K interest is probably on the low side.

Your "good deal" will end up costing more than $150K over the life of the loan. This path to an airline job is complete and utter financial insanity.
90K is the max Bank of America will lend you for flight training. At ATP you can get from 0 to Commercial ME for less than 60K. I haven't done number crunching (PPL+airline pilot program)...

My point is that a new college grad can and should consider aviation as a career choice. It can be done - education debt is an investment in ones future.

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Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer View Post
90K is the max Bank of America will lend you for flight training. At ATP you can get from 0 to Commercial ME for less than 60K. I haven't done number crunching (PPL+airline pilot program)...

My point is that a new college grad can and should consider aviation as a career choice. It can be done - education debt is an investment in ones future.

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Not sure what the point of this thread is...it almost appears as an add for ATP. Please get to the point of the thread.

This is not a free advertisement site. If you have an oppinion regarding ATP please make it, it just seems as if there has been a lot of post similiar to this in the past.
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