Getting My PPL, What A Mess.
06-25-2020, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 155mm
There are many useful scenarios available to practice on the Flight Sim even at the Private Pilot level. Tune, ID and proceed direct to the VOR, track a radial, clearing turns, steep turns, perhaps even some approach to landing, departure stalls and recovery. You can even practice the cross country flight beforehand or familiarize yourself with the class B airspace beforehand. In addition, you can have the POH out and just keep the sim running with the park brake set and go over cockpit setup, fire during engine start procedure and other static training scenarios at no cost! It's just an idea to integrate and practice procedurally what one was taught and perhaps clarify concepts.
06-25-2020, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
It's generally a bad idea because it doesn't teach the actual visual pitch attitudes for those maneuvers. What pitch reference do you use for steep turns, what bank reference? What is your (visual) pitch attitude at right now, without looking at the AI? All of those visual maneuvers require visual references, which this will not teach. It could be of some use for navigation and some other things, but the motor skills hinge on tactile and the visual pitch/aircraft control.
06-25-2020, 07:56 PM
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The next gen USAF pilot training program put dudes from the street through 35 hours of in flight instruction in the T-6 and a large amount of low cost sim time ~ double that, and they are flying F-16's and F-35....
I find it crazy that the national average for a PPL is 80 hrs....years ago it was standard 40hr program. Solo after 10 hrs. Course it was $45/hr back then :P
I find it crazy that the national average for a PPL is 80 hrs....years ago it was standard 40hr program. Solo after 10 hrs. Course it was $45/hr back then :P
06-26-2020, 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Liketoflyjets
The next gen USAF pilot training program put dudes from the street through 35 hours of in flight instruction in the T-6 and a large amount of low cost sim time ~ double that, and they are flying F-16's and F-35....
I find it crazy that the national average for a PPL is 80 hrs....years ago it was standard 40hr program. Solo after 10 hrs. Course it was $45/hr back then :P
I find it crazy that the national average for a PPL is 80 hrs....years ago it was standard 40hr program. Solo after 10 hrs. Course it was $45/hr back then :P
That 80 hrs national average thing was around in the mid 80s too.
guys aren’t flying -35s and -16s though with 35 hours in the T-6 and double the ‘low cost (?) sim time”
06-26-2020, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by powersmurfuk1
Where is it documented that the national average is 80 hrs? I can't find that. Google is telling me 55 to 65.
https://www.aopa.org/training-and-sa...-flight-school
(previously posted article)
Interestingly, this article points out the "unstable approach" as a common checkride problem. https://aopa.org/news-and-media/all-...eckride-errors
Last edited by 155mm; 06-26-2020 at 07:49 AM.
06-27-2020, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by powersmurfuk1
Where is it documented that the national average is 80 hrs? I can't find that. Google is telling me 55 to 65.
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