from my understanding, anyone can do aerobatics, whether your stupid enough to do them without instruction is up to you.. you just can't be over a densely populated area.


.. competition and airshows is probably another story

I think legally you can't do those maneuvers in aircraft not rated for them. And unless you have your own plane I don't think any FBO in their right mind will let you check out an aerobatics capable aircraft without some sort of training.

P.S - I know you can do limited aerobatics in Utility class aircraft such as the 152. But they are very specific on what maneuvers you can do and I'm pretty sure it's limited to stalls and spins.

Do you work for Mike? If you do, then you know who im talking about.

I dont know anyone in the state of Mass that is doing X300 instructing besides Mike... and i think he only has a couple of instructors working beside him...

Im not even from Mass... but the Akro community is a small one :p

I know! I know!! I also wish that at NASCAR races, instead of those sleek fast loud stock cars that go 180mph, they should use old ford model T's because they are really smooth and nice looking. Yeah.

I joke. I kid. It is nice every now and then to see a good old fashioned grass roots aerobatic run. Not all the time, just every now and then...

ps. When your pitts is breathing fire, you probably missed a couple of annuals. Or you are on fire. Either one. :D

Each aircraft will specify what manuevars they can do, outside of the ones alotted for in the category. So it will say something like "No aerobatic maneuvars are approved, except those listed below:". So you can do all the manuevars in the Utility Category, plus the listed aerobatic manuevars.

As for Airshows and the like, the reason they can do them so close to the ground is because they were given an FAA Waiver. Allowing them to perform that close to the ground and people.

I know you were kidding...but your post has made me SERIOUSLY doubt whether my dream of developing an unlimited acro routine in a Pietenpol will really be a money-maker. :confused:

He wants your money, so he'll say anything. Jets are different than single engine prop planes. They cannot do certain things. Other manuevers will break the plane. I go over 40 degrees and 60 degrees every year as part of the upset training we do. It's in a simulator, of course. Even if no airline pilot did ever in their life, who cares? Are they unsafe? No. They don't get into unsafe attitudes because they are safe pilots. Single engine prop aerobatics doesn't make you a better jet airline pilot.

this might be tough to swallow, but there are only a handful of people that actually make money from aerobatics.

If you are female, thats a good start. I know a couple hundred people who have been in aerobatics for 15-20 years, gone to national and international comps and barely make enough money each airshow to cover the cost of their expenses.

Unfortunately, you're gonna need another job.

The good news is: performing aerobatics and having a career in something seperate is possible. People who do well in aerobatics usually have 3 things in common: 1. The obvious... a large amount of natural talent flying the plane. 2. They are good at marketing their act to get people to want to have them in their airshow. 3. They know people.

My comment was made with my tongue FIRMLY in cheek...and was checking to see if anyone knew what a Pietenpol was - it was one of the original homebuilt airplanes...neat toys, and I want one, but VERY far from an acro machine.

around how much does an hour of x300 instruction cost?