Delta Connection Academy having big problems
09-22-2007, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spooner
As a Delta Connection Academy alumni I still keep in close contact with friends who work at the academy, some in management. The big academy bosses in Atlanta are going to be cleaning some house with the upper management at the Academy because they can not keep instructors to stay because of crappy pay and work rules. Instructors are over worked and students are lucky to get one event a day with their instructors.
Why does this matter to you, the prespective student? Well the new Cirrus SR20's go for $350 per hour with fuel and instructor and the less you get to fly per day the more time and money your course will cost. Also since they are losing instructors they are hiring students to instruct after receiving their CFI intial (this was never the case before, you had to have your CFII as well). The previously selective and difficult hiring process is so laxed now anyone can work there, and trust me there are many dopes instructing there who would never of been hired before.
Plus most of the CFI's there hate that place so much it is starting to show in their training.
Just a note if you are thinking about them.
Why does this matter to you, the prespective student? Well the new Cirrus SR20's go for $350 per hour with fuel and instructor and the less you get to fly per day the more time and money your course will cost. Also since they are losing instructors they are hiring students to instruct after receiving their CFI intial (this was never the case before, you had to have your CFII as well). The previously selective and difficult hiring process is so laxed now anyone can work there, and trust me there are many dopes instructing there who would never of been hired before.
Plus most of the CFI's there hate that place so much it is starting to show in their training.
Just a note if you are thinking about them.
It is a shame that you as an Alumni don't get your facts straight and post something this stupid. The Cirrus SR-20 is only US$ 20.00 more than the C-172 . The current price for the 72 is US$ 99.00 per hour and the SR-20 is US$ 119.00 per hour. Yes there is a charge for instruction and fuel surcharge and they are the same for any aircraft at the Academy.
09-22-2007, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spooner
He is a genius, he is running all the schools and he has never flown outside of DCA before...born and raised there.
Larry Wade joined the Academy over 10 year ago when it was still COMAIR. He already had his ratings and had been flying in unimproved fields since he was a teenager. His father was instrumental in the development of the B-1 Lancer and B-2 projects. You don't have to like the guy, and he is not there to make friends or make you feel good. He is there to get the job done.
You were the first guy to bail out and I even remeber your interview, that told me a lot about your character... you have my phone. Call me whenever you "hear" something about the Academy and I will tell you if it is true or BS.
I bet you are enjoying flying the 340...
09-22-2007, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"Do I even need to do it at all?"
I don't know, but I wouldn't worry about moving on without seeing a glass cockpit. It's not that big of a deal.
I don't know, but I wouldn't worry about moving on without seeing a glass cockpit. It's not that big of a deal.
Don and I have different opinions on training. But I do respect his side of view and would consider him as reliable source for those looking for part 61 "traditional" training. "BIG" flight schools such as DCA, are not for everyone and definetely not for those that cannot deal with the pressure...
There are a lot of people here that hide behind their anonimity and disseminate wrong info. Don't believe everything you read on places like this.
I was a student, instructor and now "middle management" at DCA. If you have questions and is serious about DCA, PM me. I will tell you the "Good, the Bad and the Ugly" .
And I am not afraid to tell you who I am:
Fabio Amaral
Manager of Flight Training
Assistant Chief Flight Instructor
Delta Connection Academy
Sanford
Also: http://www.bikiniatoll.com/Fabio%20Amaral.html
09-22-2007, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by planediveguy
Again dude, you don't have a clue.
Larry Wade joined the Academy over 10 year ago when it was still COMAIR. He already had his ratings and had been flying in unimproved fields since he was a teenager. His father was instrumental in the development of the B-1 Lancer and B-2 projects. You don't have to like the guy, and he is not there to make friends or make you feel good. He is there to get the job done.
Larry Wade joined the Academy over 10 year ago when it was still COMAIR. He already had his ratings and had been flying in unimproved fields since he was a teenager. His father was instrumental in the development of the B-1 Lancer and B-2 projects. You don't have to like the guy, and he is not there to make friends or make you feel good. He is there to get the job done.
Originally Posted by planediveguy
I bet you are enjoying flying the 340...
09-22-2007, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TwoStar
DCA has to be having bigger problems than I care to know about. I'm paying for a service, I'm a client not an employee and just want the training I was promised, sold, and paid for ... in the equipment I was told I was going to fly.
I'm almost finished with multi and along with so many other friends, none of us have ever seen a glass cockpit. (I'm feeling really prepared for the future with that.) None of my class have been able to get into the new upset spin course because first, it took DCA forever to get a plane delivered and by the time they got it my class was already in commercial. Now they tell me and my friends we either don't fit into the plane they bought or the class is too full because they only have one plane and two instructors.
What's with all the Cirrus on the ramp that only instructors seem to fly or maintenance work on? Will I have to pay for those too and never train in them.
Has anyone ever tried getting money back from DCA? I think their in breach of contract. Does anyone else in Sanford/Orlando offer upset/spin training? I really don't want want to have to do this in 152's. Do I even need to do it at all?
I'm almost finished with multi and along with so many other friends, none of us have ever seen a glass cockpit. (I'm feeling really prepared for the future with that.) None of my class have been able to get into the new upset spin course because first, it took DCA forever to get a plane delivered and by the time they got it my class was already in commercial. Now they tell me and my friends we either don't fit into the plane they bought or the class is too full because they only have one plane and two instructors.
What's with all the Cirrus on the ramp that only instructors seem to fly or maintenance work on? Will I have to pay for those too and never train in them.
Has anyone ever tried getting money back from DCA? I think their in breach of contract. Does anyone else in Sanford/Orlando offer upset/spin training? I really don't want want to have to do this in 152's. Do I even need to do it at all?
Don't worry about the glass time. I had zero glass time when I went to airline training and it was not a problem. After you realize the glass ASI reads opposite than what you are used to you will be fine.
09-23-2007, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by planediveguy
Nope, it was not directed at you, but to Spooner... The E-120 is a blast to fly and is a turboprop... I imagine the same can apply to the 340...
no biggie
09-23-2007, 12:20 PM
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I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHTS TO PM YET?????
Planediveguy, I'm not looking for you to answer my questions on the forum but as a DCA Executive this thread has to make you a little concerned. As a potential student, this thread makes me wonder. Not so much about the AC because all I know at this point is that they all have wings/engines/etc...I wonder about the price, hours built upon graduation, how long to build the rest of the required mins with earlier mentions of CFI slave labor for multiple years.
(Yeah yeah, I know, quit suckin-up) BTW, we share the same passion as it relates to diving. Feel free to contact me here in PNS and I'll get you out on my boat to the "Great Carrier Reef." 70' to the island, 137' to the flight deck and 166' to the hanger deck. Great dive, lots to see.
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Planediveguy, I'm not looking for you to answer my questions on the forum but as a DCA Executive this thread has to make you a little concerned. As a potential student, this thread makes me wonder. Not so much about the AC because all I know at this point is that they all have wings/engines/etc...I wonder about the price, hours built upon graduation, how long to build the rest of the required mins with earlier mentions of CFI slave labor for multiple years.
(Yeah yeah, I know, quit suckin-up) BTW, we share the same passion as it relates to diving. Feel free to contact me here in PNS and I'll get you out on my boat to the "Great Carrier Reef." 70' to the island, 137' to the flight deck and 166' to the hanger deck. Great dive, lots to see.
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