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Old 09-12-2007 | 07:34 PM
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Why do you need a 141 program. Have you ever flown before? How much time do you have? Before you go sink tens of thousands into a 141 program why not try the part 61 route while in school. Make sure this is something you really want to do and to be honnest have the skill and decision making to do this job.

Im always amazed at the number of people who want to be pilots and have zero to a few hours in a plane. I do not know if this is your situation but why not get your private part 61. When you get it, sit back and re-evaluate if it is still what you want.
Even though the B and B place says they are a Part 141 school do they still teach Part 61? I would much rather take Part 61 since I think I would pass all the 141 lessons with ease.
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Old 09-12-2007 | 07:40 PM
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Even though the B and B place says they are a Part 141 school do they still teach Part 61? I would much rather take Part 61 since I think I would pass all the 141 lessons with ease.
And why would you pass it "with ease?" Are you the chosen one?
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Old 09-12-2007 | 07:46 PM
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Cut me a break man, jeez. I already know a little about flying since my grandpa had a plane and I flew with him all the time up until he got too old to maintain it. I would want to take 61 for the monetary break, but I was wondering if a 141 school would do that, or do I need to find a specific part 61 school?
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Old 09-12-2007 | 07:52 PM
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What do you mean monetary break? Part 61 will usually be cheaper.

Part 141 is no walk in the park, it is tough and very demanding.
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Old 09-12-2007 | 08:03 PM
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Monetary break over 141, aka 61 is cheaper. Would a Part 141 school train you under part 61 though? I am having a hard time finding this info. I was reading rickair7777's post and it sounds like I would just take the 141 course and then take the checkride under 61 if I have enough flight time before completing the 141 course. I might do that, and if I end up taking the whole 141 course, then oh well, I got more training.
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Old 09-12-2007 | 08:08 PM
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Monetary break over 141, aka 61 is cheaper. Would a Part 141 school train you under part 61 though? I am having a hard time finding this info. I was reading rickair7777's post and it sounds like I would just take the 141 course and then take the checkride under 61 if I have enough flight time before completing the 141 course. I might do that, and if I end up taking the whole 141 course, then oh well, I got more training.
Many schools will not allow you to switch programs midstream. At my old school you could not say "ok, I want to take a part 61 ride in the middle of my part 141 program." You can do part 61 and some 141 schools but the 61 course will most likely be more expensive than doing part 61 at a local FBO.

My advice again is to get your private part 61 and work on your school. If after you receive your private you like what you have been doing then consider taking out the huge loan and going 141.
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Old 09-12-2007 | 09:12 PM
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I think it all depends on the school you go to but if you feel like you will breeze through the program then you might be able to 'Double Up' on a lot of your lessons. This is especially easy on your ground lessons.

Say you have a two hour block with your instructor and within the stage that you are in you have a ground lesson that covers stuff like taxiing operations, normal takeoffs and landings and preflight procedures and then a lesson that covers radio procedures and traffic patterns. What you could do, if you're instructor/school are okay with it and if you are comfortable with the material being covered, is just mash the lessons together and kind of do a review. You'll progress a bit quicker this way and it is especially helpful if you are a little more advanced than your classmates.
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Old 09-12-2007 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Spooner
Get the degree and make sure it is not an aviation degree. Major in something that you would want to do it you woke up tomorrow and lost your medical. Sorry to say but an aviation degree is pretty much useless outside of aviation.
That is good advice. And while you're at it, take some courses in history, art, music, geography, etc. They probably won't make you any money, but will help you enjoy the money you do make.
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Old 09-13-2007 | 04:33 AM
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Just be prepared to work your a$# off. I go to school taking 6 classes and fly 3 times a week and work a night job. I put in like 12 hour days but I want to get it done. Another thing to consider is if you get a business degree a regional might let you intern. Some kids at my school have got hired at lower mins because they sat though the ground schools and got letters of recommendation because they interned. But like everyone else said stay on top of flying and school.
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Old 09-13-2007 | 12:36 PM
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Well, I don't think I will ever have my college and flight school at the same time, since there are no FBO's near my school, and my school has no aviation related degrees. I am currently in the engineering program, but might switch to economics since I really like that.

Thanks for that tip/advice Spartan07!
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