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12-27-2007 | 08:50 PM

SongMan

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"Resume your own nav"?

So When you get handed off from a tower to a departure,

Cessnaxxx: Approach, Cessna 123 with you 3000'
Approach: Cesnna 123 roger, resume your own navagation.

Does this also give me permission to change my altitute to whatever I desire?

thanks!

12-27-2007 | 08:52 PM

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usually you have already requested an altitude from clearance delivery, so that's the one you're expected to follow? At least I think so ;s

12-27-2007 | 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SongMan

Does this also give me permission to change my altitute to whatever I desire?

thanks!

Nope, you fly the last assigned alt (unless 2 way comm failure). "Own navigation" means they are not vectoring you anymore.

12-27-2007 | 09:24 PM

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Does this also give me permission to change my altitute to whatever I desire?

Are you on an IFR flight plan or VFR in controlled airspace? If yes, maintain last cleared altitude.

From the pilot controller glossary:

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RESUME OWN NAVIGATION- Used by ATC to advise a pilot to resume his/her own navigational responsibility. It is issued after completion of a radar vector or when radar contact is lost while the aircraft is being radar vectored.

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12-27-2007 | 10:27 PM

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If you are IFR you have to maintain last assigned altitude OWN NAV means you have to navigate now

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12-28-2007 | 06:56 AM

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I'm sorry, I was asking VFR situation in controlled airspace.

12-28-2007 | 07:51 AM

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Being VFR unless you were told by a clearence Del or approach/departure to climb and maintain or maintain 3000 you can change altitude at this point

12-28-2007 | 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDreamer

Being VFR unless you were told by a clearence Del or approach/departure to climb and maintain or maintain 3000 you can change altitude at this point

I agree with this. If you are on flight following, it is courtesy to advise the controller prior to altitude changes.

If you are in class B airspace it's different...you are cleared in at a certain altitude, and will need to maintain that, or another assigned, altitude until told otherwise (or leaving B).

12-28-2007 | 09:06 AM

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What if you are in C airspace below B airspace?

Let me be more particular.

Let say that at ground controller gave you a departure restriction to stay at or below 3000. So once you are airborn tower hands you off to departure, and departure now tells you to "resume your own nav". Does this mean I have to stay at or below 3000' or since departure said "resume your own nav", am I cleared to climb?

12-29-2007 | 10:44 AM

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If you are in C airspace and B is above you, you CANNOT climb because you have not been cleared into B airspace. You could always request higher, but being VFR dont be surprised if you get denied.