Notices
Flight Schools and Training Ratings, building hours, airmanship, CFI topics

CFI back

Old 01-24-2008 | 02:59 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 275
Likes: 0
From: DHC-6-300 EMB 120 CRJ
Default CFI back

I might want to get my CFI current agian. Does anyone know what it will take? Would I have to retake the written tests? Would it have to be in a complex airplane or would a 152 work? Any help would be great, Thanks.
Reply
Old 01-24-2008 | 03:34 PM
  #2  
mcartier713's Avatar
Blue Light Special
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 637
Likes: 0
From: Learjet 45 & G-IV
Default

I think it depends how out of current you are... if you're over a year past your expiration I think you have to take the checkride all over again, whereas if you're still within that time period you can just take a refresher course.
Reply
Old 01-24-2008 | 04:47 PM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 275
Likes: 0
From: DHC-6-300 EMB 120 CRJ
Default

I fly 121 so I'm current with some things. I'm past a year, I think I lost it in 06.
Reply
Old 01-24-2008 | 06:37 PM
  #4  
Cubdriver's Avatar
Moderator
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,056
Likes: 0
From: ATP, CFI etc.
Default

CFR 14 FAR 61.199 says you are going to have to take a practical test, and will have to take it in a complex aircraft per 61.183 (h), which reads "an aircraft that is representative of the category and class of aircraft for the aircraft rating sought". You intend to teach commercial students by implication of renewing the certificate even if you do not use it for that specifically. Commercial students of course require complex aircraft. On the bright side, you do not have to do most of the other stuff initial applicants do.

Last edited by Cubdriver; 01-24-2008 at 06:57 PM.
Reply
Old 01-24-2008 | 08:33 PM
  #5  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 275
Likes: 0
From: DHC-6-300 EMB 120 CRJ
Default

Originally Posted by Cubdriver
CFR 14 FAR 61.199 says you are going to have to take a practical test, and will have to take it in a complex aircraft per 61.183 (h), which reads "an aircraft that is representative of the category and class of aircraft for the aircraft rating sought". You intend to teach commercial students by implication of renewing the certificate even if you do not use it for that specifically. Commercial students of course require complex aircraft. On the bright side, you do not have to do most of the other stuff initial applicants do.
Thanks thats what I was looking for. If I haven't flown GA in a while, how many hours would it take to be ready? Thanks agian.
Reply
Old 01-24-2008 | 08:43 PM
  #6  
TXTECHKA's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 382
Likes: 0
Default

you can renew in any aircraft and all instructor certificates held will be renewed. My dad just did it a while back in a 172 and he hadn't had his cfi current since I don't know like the 80s. Category and class doesn't refer to complex; the initial cfi has to be taken in a complex though. I'd give yourself maybe two or three hours to prepare prior to the checkride.
Reply
Old 01-24-2008 | 08:48 PM
  #7  
Chris's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: GA7
Default

Originally Posted by Cubdriver
CFR 14 FAR 61.199 says you are going to have to take a practical test, and will have to take it in a complex aircraft per 61.183 (h), which reads "an aircraft that is representative of the category and class of aircraft for the aircraft rating sought". You intend to teach commercial students by implication of renewing the certificate even if you do not use it for that specifically. Commercial students of course require complex aircraft. On the bright side, you do not have to do most of the other stuff initial applicants do.
Nothing screams CFI more than a guy who quotes from the FARS.
Reply
Old 01-25-2008 | 03:24 AM
  #8  
Cubdriver's Avatar
Moderator
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 6,056
Likes: 0
From: ATP, CFI etc.
Default

Originally Posted by TXTECHKA
you can renew in any aircraft and all instructor certificates held will be renewed. My dad just did it a while back in a 172 and he hadn't had his cfi current since I don't know like the 80s. Category and class doesn't refer to complex; the initial cfi has to be taken in a complex though...
Just telling him what the law says. I asked a friend who is a DPE this question a few minutes ago, and he says


In answer to your questions:

1. You can renew your CFI certificate using any airplane for which you are rated and it renews all CFI certificates.

Example: If you are a CFI - Airplane Single and Multi-Engine, Instrument, and Glider, you can take your renewal checkride in a non-complex airplane, complex airplane, Multi-engine airplane, or glider and all are renewed.

If I do this, I typically will ask questions about the others certificates. I can do any CFI checkride except an initial CFI ride. The initial CFI ride still needs to be conducted by the FSDO and a complex airplane is required for that.
So, there you have an expert opinion.

You might however run into another problem. Some airplanes have a weight restriction that affects what category it may be used in. The airplane needs to be able to do spins which is allowed for utility and aerobatic category aircraft. But the airplane you want to use may have a dual certification requiring a weight limit for use in the utility category, such as a Cessna 172S Nav III which must be less than 2208 lbs. leaving the useful load at 345 pounds for everything aboard including the fuel. To fly with anyone but the lightest examiner aboard would put it in the normal category, which is not approved for spins. In that case I would present the issue to the examiner and let him decide what aircraft to use. The 152 would work if the examiner doesn't put it over gross weight.

Last edited by Cubdriver; 01-25-2008 at 10:40 AM.
Reply
Old 01-25-2008 | 08:51 PM
  #9  
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 275
Likes: 0
From: DHC-6-300 EMB 120 CRJ
Default

Cubdriver Thanks for looking into this. I'm kicking around the idea of working for the FAA. If i do so, i need my CFI back.. Thanks....
Reply
Old 01-27-2008 | 01:44 PM
  #10  
Ottopilot's Avatar
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 2,576
Likes: 0
From: 737 CA
Default

Anyone know someone in NE PA that does checkrides? I'd like to get my CFI stuff back too.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sgrd0q
Regional
107
03-31-2021 06:51 AM
menglish1
Regional
11
09-27-2007 01:03 PM
210RG
Flight Schools and Training
8
08-11-2007 12:09 AM
Yamaha Dave
Hangar Talk
11
07-17-2007 10:33 PM
UConnQB14
Flight Schools and Training
12
03-30-2006 05:08 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices