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Old 04-04-2008 | 09:21 PM
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If you instructor tells you....I don't know what are we going to do today...what do you want to do...you're the one paying...
Im doing my instrument rating and had 11 hours with this instructor and I feel lost ,like we aren't following any structure of any kind.
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Old 04-04-2008 | 09:47 PM
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Sounds like you need to fire them and get an instructor that will give you your money's worth by maximizing your time with structure, objectives and a plan of progression.

You're paying them to have a plan of action for you. If they chuck you the ball, they aren't doing their job. Granted, once in a while if I had a hard working student that was getting themselves in a rut by overthinking NDB holds or something, I might just suggest we do something completely out of sequence in the syllabus (How 'bout we file IFR to TPA, shoot an approach, park, get lunch and talk about this NDB thing some more) but still with learning as the objective.

The student shouldn't be telling the instructor what the plan is for the day. It erodes the student's confidence in the fact that the instructor actually has a plan at all.
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Old 04-04-2008 | 09:55 PM
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Agree completely.

One of the major focuses of obtaining the CFI is lesson planning. If your school doesn't have a syllabus your instructor should spend a few minutes before every lesson figuring out what needs to be reviewed, and what needs to be introduced as you progress. Even if there is a syllabus the lesson should be taylored to your individual needs.
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Old 04-04-2008 | 10:44 PM
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Tell the chief instructor. Get his/her ass fired.
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Old 04-05-2008 | 08:43 AM
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I think that it is always a good idea to fly with more than one instructor if you have the opportunity. Then you can decide which one suits your needs best.
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Old 04-05-2008 | 09:40 AM
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Thank you for advise.I did flew with another instructor for 3 hours and then they switch me instructors.
I just think Im going to change this fly school for a fly club with a private instructor.
What do you guys think?
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Old 04-05-2008 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by papacharlie
Thank you for advise.I did flew with another instructor for 3 hours and then they switch me instructors.
I just think Im going to change this fly school for a fly club with a private instructor.
What do you guys think?
It is your money and you have to decide if you are getting your money's worth. I imagine you are like most of us and you work hard for the 'green' so why hand it over to some pecker who doesn't work as hard as you do?

Remember too the airplane is NOT a place to learn but a place to practice what you have learned on the ground. To do this, you have to know what is coming and mentally prepare for those events. You go over procedures with the simulator on your computer but more importantly the simulator that sits on your shoulders.. your brain. Go through the procedures and the approaches and figure out what you should be seeing, what you should be doing etc. Then when you get to the airplane, do what you have practiced. The important part then comes in a debriefing where the instructor works with you to define what was good and what needs improvement. That builds the next flight. Write it down so the next time you fly, you stay with the lesson plan and are not out there tossing money out the window.

Good luck.
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Old 04-05-2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scrtlvrby
I think that it is always a good idea to fly with more than one instructor if you have the opportunity. Then you can decide which one suits your needs best.
I agree. Even if you find an instuctor that you love flying with, still fly with someone else from time to time. You'll pick up on various tips and tricks along the way that will really help you out in the long run.
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Old 04-05-2008 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkiesAhead
I agree. Even if you find an instuctor that you love flying with, still fly with someone else from time to time. You'll pick up on various tips and tricks along the way that will really help you out in the long run.
I agree, and also fly with other general aviation pilots. The more you fly with the more you can help them and they can help you.
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Old 04-05-2008 | 09:37 PM
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I like instructors like this mostly. I am a self study kind of guy anyway.
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