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Check Ride From Hell
Okay so i was doing my multi commercial yesterday and had a 4 hour oral, of which the guy said i busted 3 times, with a discontinue somewhere in the middle of all the chaos(gave me my money back), then finally jumps up with a big smile and says "LETS GO FLYING!" Talk about a emotional roller coaster! Then after all this the ceiling is to low to go flying which was probally a good thing cause my head was one big bundle of crap after all that.
I blew it on some of the easiest questions (mind you i only got 4 hours of sleep because of noisy roomates etc)... He put a X out in the middle of the ocean and i couldnt figure out the coordinates, how embaressing, but seriously i havent used lines of lat and longitude ever, but still no excuse. Just kept getting the dumbest questions wrong, but nailed airpsace and systems etc. Another one was he was asking me why Zulu time was set up the way it is, my response: I dont know sir i didnt create time, i just know how to use it and calculate it. Anyways I got credit for the oral and he took my money so we'll try to wrap this up tomorrow! Oh well words cant describe the actual expierence, but it was crazy.. Just thought I'd share |
This won't make you feel any better, but on my multi commercial the oral was 15 minutes. We talked about some VMC stuff and that was about it. Good luck on your flight.
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Ditto. My commercial oral (and practical for that matter) was short and simple. I planned a VFR flight, explained why I choose that route and altitude, ect, was required to identify a bunch of stuff off of the sectional charts, explain aircraft systems a bit, and bam...we were off to fly.
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by the way...good luck on the practical!
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FIC it must have been your initial commercial exam, otherwise there was no need for him to ask four hours worth of questions to do a multi add-on. This is yet another reason not to do an initial-commercial in a twin. The other reasons are having to go back and do a separate exam to add commercial privileges in a single, plus the cost of all the above.
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Did my MEL at ALLATPS. Thught it would be a cake walk and then saw that the two applicants before me failed. My oral lasted maybe 40 minutes and we went flying.
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Originally Posted by Flying is Cool
(Post 380842)
Okay so i was doing my multi commercial yesterday and had a 4 hour oral, of which the guy said i busted 3 times, with a discontinue somewhere in the middle of all the chaos(gave me my money back), then finally jumps up with a big smile and says "LETS GO FLYING!" Talk about a emotional roller coaster! Then after all this the ceiling is to low to go flying which was probally a good thing cause my head was one big bundle of crap after all that.
I blew it on some of the easiest questions (mind you i only got 4 hours of sleep because of noisy roomates etc)... He put a X out in the middle of the ocean and i couldnt figure out the coordinates, how embaressing, but seriously i havent used lines of lat and longitude ever, but still no excuse. Just kept getting the dumbest questions wrong, but nailed airpsace and systems etc. Another one was he was asking me why Zulu time was set up the way it is, my response: I dont know sir i didnt create time, i just know how to use it and calculate it. Anyways I got credit for the oral and he took my money so we'll try to wrap this up tomorrow! Oh well words cant describe the actual expierence, but it was crazy.. Just thought I'd share |
I got an 87 on the written. SDPBOILER: I think I heard this story, or at least its how it goes in ATP jax.. this guy ernie sits there and plays solitaire just like you said... And the second guy sounds like Rich, big shot. But i head a story of a guy thinking he failed and was gettin yelled at like crazy then come to find out he pased.. Im just gettin hosed because i went to ATP stuart and they didnt have an examiner for me and wanted me in CFI school ASAP, so they sent me to jax but my instructors didnt sign my logbook properly so two weeks plus later im finally just taking the damn commercial. Meanwhile my roomate that started on the same day just passed his MEI, said he should have failed miserably but still passed. Oh well just how the cookie crumbles.
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Originally Posted by Cubdriver
(Post 380878)
FIC it must have been your initial commercial exam, otherwise there was no need for him to ask four hours worth of questions to do a multi add-on. This is yet another reason not to do an initial-commercial in a twin. The other reasons are having to go back and do a separate exam to add commercial privileges in a single, plus the cost of all the above.
4 hours is insane. The guy sounds like a bit of a nutcracker to me. |
Originally Posted by Flying is Cool
(Post 380842)
Okay so i was doing my multi commercial yesterday and had a 4 hour oral, of which the guy said i busted 3 times, with a discontinue somewhere in the middle of all the chaos(gave me my money back), then finally jumps up with a big smile and says "LETS GO FLYING!"
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I thought once you busted the oral, you could not go flying? Been way too long since a check ride, but for some reason that is going around in my head. I agree, 4 hours is way too long. Some of the other stories just make me shake my head.
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Originally Posted by DiputadoVolador
(Post 380869)
This won't make you feel any better, but on my multi commercial the oral was 15 minutes. We talked about some VMC stuff and that was about it. Good luck on your flight.
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Originally Posted by Flying is Cool
(Post 380894)
I got an 87 on the written. SDPBOILER: I think I heard this story, or at least its how it goes in ATP jax.. this guy ernie sits there and plays solitaire just like you said... And the second guy sounds like Rich, big shot. But i head a story of a guy thinking he failed and was gettin yelled at like crazy then come to find out he pased.. Im just gettin hosed because i went to ATP stuart and they didnt have an examiner for me and wanted me in CFI school ASAP, so they sent me to jax but my instructors didnt sign my logbook properly so two weeks plus later im finally just taking the damn commercial. Meanwhile my roomate that started on the same day just passed his MEI, said he should have failed miserably but still passed. Oh well just how the cookie crumbles.
If this was an ME add-on, it was ridiculous. Even for an initial commercial that's too long...only a CFI oral should go four hours. The guy should not have been playing mind games in the oral either...I would personally not use him again. If you do some research I'm sure you can find a level-headed, consistent DE. Time zones were created to account for the sun being at different elevations as you change longitude. Used to be that every town set their clock when the sun was high-noon, so the actual time in any location varied in random increments (100 miles away would be off by a few minutes). GMT (Zulu, Greenwich Mean Time) is the noon-based time in London, England and was selected as the universal "master" time. Greenwich (in London) is located on the prime (or zero) meridian. All other time zones are based on the that, but are offset by whole-hour increments to simplify conversion. But there's no reason you should have to know this on a commercial checkride. |
Originally Posted by DiputadoVolador
(Post 380869)
This won't make you feel any better, but on my multi commercial the oral was 15 minutes. We talked about some VMC stuff and that was about it. Good luck on your flight.
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Time zones were created to account for the sun being at different elevations as you change longitude. http://www.webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/d.html |
Originally Posted by III Corps
(Post 381084)
More than that. With each town setting its own clocks, no one could figure out when the trains arrived and left. First country to standardize the clocks was Britian.
I swear that is the last time I say it. HAHA I didnt mean to go on my own personal crusade. |
Originally Posted by DiputadoVolador
(Post 380869)
This won't make you feel any better, but on my multi commercial the oral was 15 minutes. We talked about some VMC stuff and that was about it. Good luck on your flight.
I just took my multi add on yesterday and I was the same way. 15min oral and 1.2 flight. He asked me some systems, service ceilings, gear extention procedures, and a few others. The flight was engine failure on take off, steep turns, Vmc demo, engine shutdown, turns with one engine, and a ILS with a simulated engine out. Sorry about the 4 hr oral. :( |
Originally Posted by BoredwLife
(Post 381201)
You must have gone to UND also!!!! j/k
I swear that is the last time I say it. HAHA I didnt mean to go on my own personal crusade. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 381029)
If this was an ME add-on, it was ridiculous. Even for an initial commercial that's too long...only a CFI oral should go four hours.
The guy should not have been playing mind games in the oral either...I would personally not use him again. If you do some research I'm sure you can find a level-headed, consistent DE. Time zones were created to account for the sun being at different elevations as you change longitude. Used to be that every town set their clock when the sun was high-noon, so the actual time in any location varied in random increments (100 miles away would be off by a few minutes). GMT (Zulu, Greenwich Mean Time) is the noon-based time in London, England and was selected as the universal "master" time. Greenwich (in London) is located on the prime (or zero) meridian. All other time zones are based on the that, but are offset by whole-hour increments to simplify conversion. But there's no reason you should have to know this on a commercial checkride. what a geek...you need a butt kickin |
So I passed the flying part with the same guy, it was a real good flight considering i had not been able to fly 3 weeks prior. He was real fair and was probally my best checkride yet. Still got a clean slate, whew.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 381029)
Time zones were created to account for the sun being at different elevations as you change longitude. Used to be that every town set their clock when the sun was high-noon, so the actual time in any location varied in random increments (100 miles away would be off by a few minutes). GMT (Zulu, Greenwich Mean Time) is the noon-based time in London, England and was selected as the universal "master" time. Greenwich (in London) is located on the prime (or zero) meridian. All other time zones are based on the that, but are offset by whole-hour increments to simplify conversion. But there's no reason you should have to know this on a commercial checkride.
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4 hour oral??? Are you sure it wasn't a checkride for the CFI initial????????
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even my CFI initial wasnt that long
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