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Old 05-07-2008, 08:39 AM
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Okay so i was doing my multi commercial yesterday and had a 4 hour oral, of which the guy said i busted 3 times, with a discontinue somewhere in the middle of all the chaos(gave me my money back), then finally jumps up with a big smile and says "LETS GO FLYING!" Talk about a emotional roller coaster! Then after all this the ceiling is to low to go flying which was probally a good thing cause my head was one big bundle of crap after all that.

I blew it on some of the easiest questions (mind you i only got 4 hours of sleep because of noisy roomates etc)... He put a X out in the middle of the ocean and i couldnt figure out the coordinates, how embaressing, but seriously i havent used lines of lat and longitude ever, but still no excuse. Just kept getting the dumbest questions wrong, but nailed airpsace and systems etc. Another one was he was asking me why Zulu time was set up the way it is, my response: I dont know sir i didnt create time, i just know how to use it and calculate it.

Anyways I got credit for the oral and he took my money so we'll try to wrap this up tomorrow!

Oh well words cant describe the actual expierence, but it was crazy.. Just thought I'd share
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:23 AM
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This won't make you feel any better, but on my multi commercial the oral was 15 minutes. We talked about some VMC stuff and that was about it. Good luck on your flight.
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Ditto. My commercial oral (and practical for that matter) was short and simple. I planned a VFR flight, explained why I choose that route and altitude, ect, was required to identify a bunch of stuff off of the sectional charts, explain aircraft systems a bit, and bam...we were off to fly.
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by the way...good luck on the practical!
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:41 AM
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FIC it must have been your initial commercial exam, otherwise there was no need for him to ask four hours worth of questions to do a multi add-on. This is yet another reason not to do an initial-commercial in a twin. The other reasons are having to go back and do a separate exam to add commercial privileges in a single, plus the cost of all the above.
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Did my MEL at ALLATPS. Thught it would be a cake walk and then saw that the two applicants before me failed. My oral lasted maybe 40 minutes and we went flying.
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Okay so i was doing my multi commercial yesterday and had a 4 hour oral, of which the guy said i busted 3 times, with a discontinue somewhere in the middle of all the chaos(gave me my money back), then finally jumps up with a big smile and says "LETS GO FLYING!" Talk about a emotional roller coaster! Then after all this the ceiling is to low to go flying which was probally a good thing cause my head was one big bundle of crap after all that.

I blew it on some of the easiest questions (mind you i only got 4 hours of sleep because of noisy roomates etc)... He put a X out in the middle of the ocean and i couldnt figure out the coordinates, how embaressing, but seriously i havent used lines of lat and longitude ever, but still no excuse. Just kept getting the dumbest questions wrong, but nailed airpsace and systems etc. Another one was he was asking me why Zulu time was set up the way it is, my response: I dont know sir i didnt create time, i just know how to use it and calculate it.

Anyways I got credit for the oral and he took my money so we'll try to wrap this up tomorrow!

Oh well words cant describe the actual expierence, but it was crazy.. Just thought I'd share
I am not sure but assume this was a Designated Examiner. My experience with DE's has been varied; for my PPL the DE was very professional and thourough, DE for my Instrument and Commercial Single was what I would consider a little less that professional(sat at his desk while playing solitaire with his back to me during the oral) and the DE during my Commercial Multi was taking phone calls and talking about firing some new guy at the flight school using very colorful language. My favorite was the DE during my Private Multi. This gentleman took phone calls all during the oral, preflight, and up to the take off. He didn't like my short field landing and actually started yelling at me in the airplane. All the other manuevers and landings were good and it is not like I crashed the plane. Just a little bit more firm of a landing than he liked. Finished and I was certain I would be getting a pink slip. The guy passed me. Still feel like punching this guy in the gut to this day.
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I got an 87 on the written. SDPBOILER: I think I heard this story, or at least its how it goes in ATP jax.. this guy ernie sits there and plays solitaire just like you said... And the second guy sounds like Rich, big shot. But i head a story of a guy thinking he failed and was gettin yelled at like crazy then come to find out he pased.. Im just gettin hosed because i went to ATP stuart and they didnt have an examiner for me and wanted me in CFI school ASAP, so they sent me to jax but my instructors didnt sign my logbook properly so two weeks plus later im finally just taking the damn commercial. Meanwhile my roomate that started on the same day just passed his MEI, said he should have failed miserably but still passed. Oh well just how the cookie crumbles.

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FIC it must have been your initial commercial exam, otherwise there was no need for him to ask four hours worth of questions to do a multi add-on. This is yet another reason not to do an initial-commercial in a twin. The other reasons are having to go back and do a separate exam to add commercial privileges in a single, plus the cost of all the above.
I agree with doing the initial in the multi. That is what I did. In fact, I still havent done my commercial single yet...need to get that done one of these days.

4 hours is insane. The guy sounds like a bit of a nutcracker to me.
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Okay so i was doing my multi commercial yesterday and had a 4 hour oral, of which the guy said i busted 3 times, with a discontinue somewhere in the middle of all the chaos(gave me my money back), then finally jumps up with a big smile and says "LETS GO FLYING!"
Something is really very wrong here. Either he is a colossal screw-up or you were very unprepared. No one needs to ask 4hrs of questions to decide if you know your stuff regardless. For a while we had some check airmen who decided they were going to give long orals and that quit when the senior decided to give THEM a few 4hr orals.
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