USMCFLYR

This is amazing to me that they could get you through all of the instructor ratings in only two weeks! From my peers that have their CFIs, I've only heard what a challenging certificate it was to get; then to add on the II and MEI.....well.....I am awed that it can be done.

USMCFLYR

Krafty1

Two weeks would really be pushing it. Assuming you are prepared in that amount of time, it could take at least that long to schedule your checkrides. The price looks very good though.

Pilotpip

To do it in two weeks, you're basically going to have to go in there ready to rock. Have your binder ready, have your regs memorized and be automatic on the FOI. In two weeks you basically get a flight or two for each check ride and a little bit of brush up.

Didn't go to ATP but know a lot of people that did for the CFI program. Regardless of where you do the CFI the cost will be totally dependent on your preparation.

Photon

Just waiting for the LOA from the FSDO can take 2 weeks, at least in Florida

Cubdriver

There are several thoughts that come to mind about this program. One is, if you go in with your 2 or 3 writtens done and to a high enough score, you will already know a lot about what is required of a new CFI since the only significant extra things for a CFI to do are are sitting on the right side and explaining what they are doing as they do it. As DE says, the rest can't really be taught and you have to learn it on the job ie. the psychology of students and how to best adapt things to hard-heads.

The second thing is AllATPs has a tried and true system of "teaching to the test". They know before you sign up who your examiner is by name, and what he asks for and how much. This really makes a difference in the success rate, however much it may sound like cheating. It's not cheating, they just send a lot of people through the mill and they know what to do to get them ready to pass. So some or all of the speed they offer is just this.

But I think there is also a significant lacking in the ATP program from what I have seen over the years. That whambam memorize a few things and go take your checkride concept does not drill anything very deep into anyone and even less to get them thinking creatively about how to teach. All the ATPers I ever crossed paths with fit this description. The ones that are on their own (ie, not teaching at ATP) are fairly clueless about how to teach. Sorry but it's true to my experience. They are used to being told how to do everything to pass the test which does not involve any creativity. An ideal instructor is good because they know how to adapt the material to the student.

All in all though, since getting started teaching is the main thing to do, I am generally positive about the ATP CFI program. Don't go unprepared, it is best used as a finishing course.

lifter123

That's my feeling with the program...that you do all of the preparing, studying, binder, etc at home and then head to ATP to finish up and sign you up for the checkride.

I bought the FOI study book today and will see how that goes. I also thought a good idea might be to go up with some friends and sit in the right seat. I feel that the maximum of 12 hours of actual flight time that is included might be pushing it to learn how to fly right seat. Guess I'll be hittin' the books over the holidays.

Pilotpip

I wouldn't do that unless your friends are instructors. What happens when you screw up and you have two rated pilots up front? You both burn. You already know how to fly, why waste time/money doing something that doesn't take much practice?

Flying from the right seat isn't any different than the left seat. A little different muscle memory but guess what? Push yoke forward, cows still get bigger. Visual cues are slightly different, However in a cessna or piper you're only a couple feet from where you used to sit. If you just use your left leg to line up centerline instead of right (how I taught my students) you'll be fine.

250 or point 65

So, the question remains...if i were planning on getting my CFI quickly at a place that is going to charge me a lot of money, AND I was going to do 90% of the work prior to arriving, why wouldn't I find some place cheaper?

250 or point 65

BUT....be careful on how you approach this. If you go up with a CFI while he's sitting in the left seat, he's pretty much giving you dual towards a CFI...so he better have 2 years etc under his belt!

EDIT: did they just change that "or" in the reg that gives the 24 month rule for instructing first time applicants?

rotorhead1026

According to the CATS website:

http://www.catstest.com/html/applica...nstructor.html

you don't need any signoff, although FAR 61 leads one to believe that one is needed for the FOI ... whatever. I'm not sure where the exemption is.



As for the other ratings, look under eligibility requirements. It'll say whether you need a sign-off. Not required for ATP, for example.