Flight Training AND TSA Requirements

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01-02-2009 | 08:47 AM

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NoyGonnaDoIt

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Yeah it's something like FAR part 1335, it's way in the back and untouched usually.

It's not FAR Part anything. It's a DOT/TSA reg, not a FAR

49 CFR Part 1552

Electronic Code of Federal Regulations:

07-08-2009 | 06:02 AM

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Does anyone know if you need a student to provide a passport/birth certificate for a BFR??? Is it considered "flight training" ???

I called the FAA...could not give me a 100% answer.

I called the TSA...could not give me an answer and referred me to their website which takes you to the TSA training...no real answer there either.

07-08-2009 | 06:48 AM

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I would say no. When I do a Flight Review I make photocopies of their medical, license and a photo ID. The TSA is worried about us teaching the wrong people how to fly. Kind of moot when they already have the thing, IMHO...

Also, in response to the above comments about keeping records for your kid, how long could it take to make a photocopy or write a 50 word endorsement?

Besides, everyone knows that you aren't a pilot until the weight of your paperwork equals your own weight.

07-08-2009 | 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainTeezy

Does anyone know if you need a student to provide a passport/birth certificate for a BFR??? Is it considered "flight training" ???

You do not need to have your student provide a U.S. passport or birth certificate for a flight review, instrument proficiency check or training for an ATP certificate, single engine commercial, CFI, CFII or MEI.

TSA Defines "Recurrent Training"
TSA interprets the definition of "recurrent training" to NOT include any flight review, proficiency check, or other check whose purpose is to review rules, maneuvers, or procedures or to demonstrate a pilot's existing skills.

TSA Clarification of "Flight Training"
TSA has provided clarification on the definition of "flight training" for aircraft with an MTOW of 12,500 pounds or less; it now only includes flight training for a recreational pilot, sport pilot, or private pilot certificate; multiengine rating (at any level); or instrument rating.

AOPA Online: AOPA's Guide to TSA's Alien Flight Training/Citizenship Validation Rule

07-08-2009 | 07:09 PM

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Kougarok

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I have been renting out a 150. I am not a CFI. Do I need to keep any records or check ID? I know the contract CFI's that have been working my airplane. All though I haven't checked there ID's.