best way to study for the CFI ride
03-04-2009, 08:41 AM
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best way to study for the CFI ride
I'm studying at home for my CFI checkride. Can you tell me guys what's the best way to prepare for the checkride.
Right now I'm studying from the ASA Oral Exam Guide....
if you could give me a list of books etc I would highly appreciated it!!
Thanks
Right now I'm studying from the ASA Oral Exam Guide....
if you could give me a list of books etc I would highly appreciated it!!
Thanks
03-04-2009, 09:00 AM
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If you're studying for the CFI, you should know what to read. EVERYTHING. Not always important to know what the answer is, but where to find it. Become familiar with FAA publications.
AC61-65 is important for you. It covers endorsements.
The Airplane Flying Handbook, Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge, Instrument Flying Handbook and other FAA pubs are good too. If you don't own them, download them for free on the FAA website. The Freedom of Information Act is good for that.
Perhaps most important is the FAR/AIM. The one ASA publishes has a list of important things to read based on the rating you're going for. I'd suggest reading, and tabbing all of those. It makes the book a mess but you'll probably need a few of them during your checkride.
Ditch the ASA study guide. It's too basic.
AC61-65 is important for you. It covers endorsements.
The Airplane Flying Handbook, Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge, Instrument Flying Handbook and other FAA pubs are good too. If you don't own them, download them for free on the FAA website. The Freedom of Information Act is good for that.
Perhaps most important is the FAR/AIM. The one ASA publishes has a list of important things to read based on the rating you're going for. I'd suggest reading, and tabbing all of those. It makes the book a mess but you'll probably need a few of them during your checkride.
Ditch the ASA study guide. It's too basic.
03-04-2009, 11:00 AM
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Start with the Study Aid Bibliography towards the bottom of the page under "Contents/Free Lesson Plans":
Qref Quick Reference Media - Aviation :: Lesson Plans :: CFI Lesson Plans: PPSEL
And I put together a "10 Steps to CFI" at http://www.slantgolf.com/cfi.htm
Good luck and let us know how it goes!
Qref Quick Reference Media - Aviation :: Lesson Plans :: CFI Lesson Plans: PPSEL
And I put together a "10 Steps to CFI" at http://www.slantgolf.com/cfi.htm
Good luck and let us know how it goes!
03-04-2009, 01:59 PM
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I put my reading list on this thread CFI Study Materials a few weeks ago. Maybe we need to merge these two threads... looks I am starting to think like a moderator now.
03-04-2009, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pilotpip
The Airplane Flying Handbook, Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge, Instrument Flying Handbook and other FAA pubs are good too. If you don't own them, download them for free on the FAA website. The Freedom of Information Act is good for that.
Perhaps most important is the FAR/AIM. The one ASA publishes has a list of important things to read based on the rating you're going for. I'd suggest reading, and tabbing all of those. It makes the book a mess but you'll probably need a few of them during your checkride.
Ditch the ASA study guide. It's too basic.
Perhaps most important is the FAR/AIM. The one ASA publishes has a list of important things to read based on the rating you're going for. I'd suggest reading, and tabbing all of those. It makes the book a mess but you'll probably need a few of them during your checkride.
Ditch the ASA study guide. It's too basic.
I agree with the above list, but keep the ASA study guide. The guide is a good way to focus your energies. I would suggest going back over all of your previous training books for Private and Commercial in particular. Getting started on your lesson plans will also help you study a great deal. As you prepare the lessons you will gain an even better grasp of the concepts.
You should also study and read everything ever written about flying! That is what it feels like any way and the more you read the more prepared you'll be. Just don't feel like you have to know everything. (You really don't, even though it will feel like it.)
I would keep a piece of paper with me while I was preparing and I would write down things that I thought I needed to study more. It's good to have with you through out the day so you can write down anything you think you're unsure of.
03-04-2009, 07:59 PM
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Check out the Bone Crusher
If you are studying for the CFI, you should indeed read the Airplane Flying Handbook (or whatever applicable aircraft flying handbook applies to your ratings) COVER to COVER.
The Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge is also something to have read, but I'd make sure that I had the Airplane Flying Handbook first if I were you.
There are other things to read as well, but I put the Airplane Flying Handbook and the regs up at the top of the list. All of your practical information for maneuvers and basic principles of flight, worded the way the FAA wants to hear them, are in the Airplane Flying Handbook.
If you want a truly amazing study guide for the CFI, check out
DPE June Bonesteel's CFI oral guides. There are three volumes for the CFI cert and they are absolutely fabulous. To my knowledge, June produces the most exhaustive oral guides on the market. She even goes so far as to *asterik* those questions that you are most likely to get asked on any given checkride. If you can get a buddy to quiz you (who is also a pilot) and go through all 3 volumes, you will know what you need to brush up on and what you don't.
You can look at the study source for all the question you can't quite grasp or consistently answer, and then attack by going back to that source (the FARs, the AIM, The Airplane Flying Handbook, whatever...)
June Bonesteel Aviation Books - MyPilotStore.com
Just my $.02
-Sultan CFI (II, ME)
The Pilots Handbook of Aeronautical Knowledge is also something to have read, but I'd make sure that I had the Airplane Flying Handbook first if I were you.
There are other things to read as well, but I put the Airplane Flying Handbook and the regs up at the top of the list. All of your practical information for maneuvers and basic principles of flight, worded the way the FAA wants to hear them, are in the Airplane Flying Handbook.
If you want a truly amazing study guide for the CFI, check out
DPE June Bonesteel's CFI oral guides. There are three volumes for the CFI cert and they are absolutely fabulous. To my knowledge, June produces the most exhaustive oral guides on the market. She even goes so far as to *asterik* those questions that you are most likely to get asked on any given checkride. If you can get a buddy to quiz you (who is also a pilot) and go through all 3 volumes, you will know what you need to brush up on and what you don't.
You can look at the study source for all the question you can't quite grasp or consistently answer, and then attack by going back to that source (the FARs, the AIM, The Airplane Flying Handbook, whatever...)
June Bonesteel Aviation Books - MyPilotStore.com
Just my $.02
-Sultan CFI (II, ME)
03-04-2009, 08:02 PM
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I am also studying for my CFI checkride. I used the King courses for the writtens and got 94, 96 and 98 on the FOI, CFI and AGI. Not a bad course all in all.
I have been trying to make my face known around the local FSDO and FAA Safety meetings etc. and get a feel for what is expected. From what I am told, you should know the private, commercial and CFI PTS's COLD. Any completion standards, typical problems, tolerences etc. should be on the tip of your tongue.
As stated above, you should also know AC 61-65E like the back of your hand. The power of the pen is a privilege and a curse, and they want to know that you know what you can do, what you can't do, what you should or should not do etc. They want to see that if you don't know, then you know where to find it, or you will call and ask a second opinion. Have someone give you all the "what if" scenarios for students and see if you can tell what course of action is needed.
I also have been told that in the past they were sort of lacks on the FOI stuff, but they are really starting to test your ability to actually TEACH this stuff, and more importantly, be able to have the skills that are taught in the Aviation Instructors Handbook and apply them to give your students the highest quality instruction. Not only in information, but being able to read them, find there motivations and cater to their needs specifically.
They also want you to have a fairly broad and deep base of knowledge on the ground/book material...especially for the private level. You will need ALL the FAA books that are listed in the above post. You can get them online, but I have mine highlighted to hell and tabbed just as much, as is my FAR/AIM...which you should have a very good working knowledge of too. Not so much specific numbers like..."oh yeah, thats in 14 CFR 91.207 (e)(2)...but tab anything you think you may need and be able to find it - quickly.
They will expect you to be able to explain something 2 or 3 different ways. That way when a student gives you that glossy eyed look and nods, you can explain it in a different way that they will hopefully understand. I am going to take a stage check in the next couple of weeks with my examiner and I will try to post any feedback of what they tell me on my ride.
Good luck
I have been trying to make my face known around the local FSDO and FAA Safety meetings etc. and get a feel for what is expected. From what I am told, you should know the private, commercial and CFI PTS's COLD. Any completion standards, typical problems, tolerences etc. should be on the tip of your tongue.
As stated above, you should also know AC 61-65E like the back of your hand. The power of the pen is a privilege and a curse, and they want to know that you know what you can do, what you can't do, what you should or should not do etc. They want to see that if you don't know, then you know where to find it, or you will call and ask a second opinion. Have someone give you all the "what if" scenarios for students and see if you can tell what course of action is needed.
I also have been told that in the past they were sort of lacks on the FOI stuff, but they are really starting to test your ability to actually TEACH this stuff, and more importantly, be able to have the skills that are taught in the Aviation Instructors Handbook and apply them to give your students the highest quality instruction. Not only in information, but being able to read them, find there motivations and cater to their needs specifically.
They also want you to have a fairly broad and deep base of knowledge on the ground/book material...especially for the private level. You will need ALL the FAA books that are listed in the above post. You can get them online, but I have mine highlighted to hell and tabbed just as much, as is my FAR/AIM...which you should have a very good working knowledge of too. Not so much specific numbers like..."oh yeah, thats in 14 CFR 91.207 (e)(2)...but tab anything you think you may need and be able to find it - quickly.
They will expect you to be able to explain something 2 or 3 different ways. That way when a student gives you that glossy eyed look and nods, you can explain it in a different way that they will hopefully understand. I am going to take a stage check in the next couple of weeks with my examiner and I will try to post any feedback of what they tell me on my ride.
Good luck
03-05-2009, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gpatelzick
I also have been told that in the past they were sort of lacks on the FOI stuff, but they are really starting to test your ability to actually TEACH this stuff, and more importantly, be able to have the skills that are taught in the Aviation Instructors Handbook and apply them to give your students the highest quality instruction. Not only in information, but being able to read them, find there motivations and cater to their needs specifically.
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