Day currency is just 3 take offs and landings. The FAR does not state that those three be done during the day only that they are done. The night currency satisfies that requirement.

I see what you're saying, and that's the impression I was under as well, until I looked up the FAR.

What do you make of 61.57.1.2, the "For the purpose of meeting the requirements of paragraph (a)(1) of this section, a person may act as a pilot in command of an aircraft under day VFR or day IFR" part.

I know it has the word "may" in it, which is a word that's been highly debated in the world of FARs.

I don't know what to make of it... Does it mean that a person may NOT act as pilot in command of an aircraft under NIGHT VFR? Or does the fact that night VFR is omitted not make a difference? Why would it specify DAY VFR?

To me, after reading the FAR, because it SPECIFICALLY mentions DAY VFR, means that the currency for day VFR should be completed during the day. Otherwise, it would just say "VFR" and not specify "day."

But that's just my interpretation. When it comes down to it, if I'm going for day currency, I'll do my landings during the day. For night currency, I'll do them at night.

I am from a collegiate flight program, and it is routinely taught by a highly experience former airline and FAA consultant lawyer that night currency counts for day. We have been doing it forever and the FSDO that oversees our program is aware of this. The King/Cessna PPL video set I have also states night currency counts for day.

I know that the FARs are not clear on this, and that is why I asked if anyone has heard of multi currency counting for single. To me it seems that they same logic that says if you can land at night, you can land during the day also means that if you can land a twin, then you can land a single. The FARs may be black and white, but the interpretation by the FSDOs are not.

The language of the regs, as interpreted, have been clear.

The reg does not specify a requirement for "day" landings, so night landings count for day currency. The reg does not require landings in "tricycle gear" airplanes, so landings in tailwheel airplanes counts for nosewheel currency as well.

The reg does specify that currency is required in category and class, so helicopter landings don't count for airplanes, airplane landings don't count for gliders, and multis don't count for singles.
Says who? Apparently, the FAA came across enough of a difference (not necessarily easier or harder) between singles and multis that it specified the requirement.

Are you sure the "gray" you see in the reg isn't really gray but just one version of a very common phenomenon that comes down to: "I personally think that these regs must be complicated. And I personally think that what it says just have to be wrong. So I'll say that they are unclear and hope for the interpretation I'm looking for."

That's not an insult - it's a very real phenomenon: "gray" subjectively defined as "I personally don't understand." The result is making things way more complicated than they are.

Speaking of which..
Huh???!!! :confused:

You guys make my head hurt. Let's just summerize, quit quoting the reg's, and do things the right way.

Night landings qualify you under any circumstance, day landings are only good if you don't fly at night.

Single vs. Multi, you need to stay current in both with seperate set of 3 landings if you fly both, regardless, no funny rules, gray areas, just do it!

If you fly gliders, balloons, heli's, guess what......same thing applies, all seperate!

Did I leave something out? We going to the IFR currency regs next?

My question is, why would the regs specify day VFR" Why not "For the purpose of meeting the requirememnts... may act as PIC of an aircraft under day or night VFR..."

My previous post was a bit sarcastic about day/night landings. To summarize clearly...

Category, class, (and type) apply for landings. ASEL LDG currency is not the same as AMEL currency.

If your three LDG's were during daylight, you are landing current only during daylight (note that there are different definitions of daylight in the FAR's).

If you do your LDG currency at night, you are good for both day and night...if you can land at night, you can probably pull it off in broad daylight (but not vice versa).

The regs don't always make perfect sense though. I'm landing current in a duchess, but not a 172, because I fly an airliner (AMEL). I'm sure that I would be safer in a 172 than a duchess since the 172 is more forgiving.

A space shuttle pilot could use that LDG currency in a sport glider...assuming he could get three LDG's in 90 days :rolleyes:

Legalese
 

Subsection A is titled "General Requirements" and this is the only subsection with the limiting word "day". Notice what subsections B-E do NOT include, as opposed to exclude (big legal difference here). If you fall behind on ALL your currencies then you are not allowed to take any other people up with you at night (FTDs do not go up - they are stationary) so you have to first go up in the day when you are allowed to take the required crew members needed to operate your B747. Now that your general currency is current, you can take the crewmembers up at night and get your night currency.

Bottom line - stay 90 day current or you'll have to pay double.

But then again - what do I know?

The solution to this is to fly with a check airman or CFI.

The "huh" was "why are you taking part of the reg out of it's context and applying it to something else?"

Let's work with context: 61.57(a) doesn't just talk about passenger currency. It also says:

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61.57(a)(1)...no person may act as a pilot in command ... of an aircraft certificated for more than one pilot flight crewmember unless that person has made at least three takeoffs and three landings within the preceding 90 days...
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IOW, you can't be the PIC of a multi-pilot crew unless you are landing current.

Then there's the exception to that part of the rule which is in the portion you quoted:

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61.57(a)(2). For the purpose of meeting the requirements of paragraph (a)(1) of this section, a person may act as a pilot in command of an aircraft under day VFR or day IFR, provided no persons or property are carried on board the aircraft, other than those necessary for the conduct of the flight.
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IOW, the FAA is giving you a little leeway in the multi-pilot crew currency situation. If you need to get current and you are part of a multi-pilot crew, you can do it while acting as PIC, but there are limitations: (1) the purpose of the flight needs to be to regain currency; (2) only the other required pilot can be on board; and (3) the currency-regaining flight can only be done in the daytime.

I think it's pretty straightforward and even makes sort of sense - the FAA will let the PIC of a muilti-pilot crew regain currency without having to get someone else to act as PIC, but only during the day. At night, sol, he'll have to get someone else to act as PIC.