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04-05-2009 | 09:56 PM
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So who are the players in the contract student game these days?
RAA, ASA, CAPT, IATA have folded. Places like Airsafety and Sierra seem to be perpetually circling the drain with "cash flow" problems and temp shut downs. Anyone work at a school thats figured out how to avoid being the next failed business model when confronted with the "chinese curse"?
RAA, ASA, CAPT, IATA have folded. Places like Airsafety and Sierra seem to be perpetually circling the drain with "cash flow" problems and temp shut downs. Anyone work at a school thats figured out how to avoid being the next failed business model when confronted with the "chinese curse"?
04-06-2009 | 11:24 AM
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I wish I knew more about how these contracts were organized. It seems counter-intuitive that a decidedly smaller number of domestic student starts could carry the training costs for 50-200 contract students.
And how in the world can you not make money with that sort of scale unless to get the contract in the first place costs are being wildly underestimated.
And how in the world can you not make money with that sort of scale unless to get the contract in the first place costs are being wildly underestimated.
04-06-2009 | 05:32 PM
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anyone who actually works at DCA have some input? I'm not interested in "DCA sucks they are overpriced and steal people's money" or "go to an FBO....its way better" I just want the information, thanks.
04-09-2009 | 08:02 PM
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I've heard the rumor, but I haven't heard anything concrete. My tenuous connections up there are quickly fading, so I don't have the latest and greatest--as it were--any more.
04-11-2009 | 11:23 AM
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Yes I believe that DCA got another Chinese contract but if it was from another company I couldn't say who. A person I went through Commercial with that is an Instructor at DCA mentioned something a few months ago about them coming.
04-11-2009 | 12:21 PM
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I instructed there back in last half of 2006 into first of 2007. You will work but they will treat you like crap. Too many big fish in a small pond there.
Not too bad but just a lot of b/s you will have to deal with. However in this economy you might as wel take it.
Not too bad but just a lot of b/s you will have to deal with. However in this economy you might as wel take it.
04-11-2009 | 02:15 PM
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So who are the players in the contract student game these days?
RAA, ASA, CAPT, IATA have folded. Places like Airsafety and Sierra seem to be perpetually circling the drain with "cash flow" problems and temp shut downs. Anyone work at a school thats figured out how to avoid being the next failed business model when confronted with the "chinese curse"?
RAA, ASA, CAPT, IATA have folded. Places like Airsafety and Sierra seem to be perpetually circling the drain with "cash flow" problems and temp shut downs. Anyone work at a school thats figured out how to avoid being the next failed business model when confronted with the "chinese curse"?
I work at a school that is doing really well that doesn't have big contracts. We mostly do military guys. They seem to be the only ones who have money these days and most of them who sit at a desk all day hate it, so we tell them that they have a better chance of getting a flying slot if they get their license. The VA, or GI bill will also pay for 60% of any rating as long as it isn't the private. We advertise like crazy at some of the bases near by, I just did an interview with army weekly too. That is the best market that we are having success with so hopefully this might help.
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