WyoRunner8

I am strongly considering this flight school near St Louis. Has anybody had expereince or have graduated from this school to tell me what i can expect?

http://langaair.com

CL65driver

Well, their website says they will set up an interview with GoJet airlines once you meet their minimums. I'm pretty sure you've heard every other person and their mother badmouth that airline constantly on this board.

Personally, they're just another airline. So what if their conditions are worse? So what if thier pay is wose? Is someone holding a gun to YOUR head to fly at GoJets? And this whole "brotherhood" argument about them sickens me. If everyone is so concerned about brotherhood... why the heck not get your "brothers" to stop sucking the aluminum tit, and help increase FO pay to above the proverty level? Ok.. sorry, enough of my ranting......

Better to go the FBO route... less Bull $hit, trust me.

And don't bother with GoJets... even if they are a decent airline to work at, the little boys out there can't handle someone not wanting to play in their club, and will put you on that JOKE of a blacklist.

Alright, let the flaming begin!!!!!

Pilotpip

They currently have a back log of people that they promise instructor slots to in the range of about 20-30. Most end up going to work somewhere else. Funny thing about them is that you don't hear anything about them around here. There are only 5 or 6 flight schools in the St. Louis area. I work at one, went to another and know nothing about them but know people that have done training at every other school.

PS: Move somewhere nicer than St. Louis to do your training. There's not much to do here and ALN airport is about an hour from downtown so there isn't much to do up there. Staying at home, and going to your local FBO will be cheaper, and potentially faster.

WyoRunner8

Actually I haven't heard anything good or bad about Gojets. However it is interesting about the back log of instructors. So if I understand you correctly people basically get tired of waiting for a "guarenteed" instructor spot and go teach somewhere else? If they are such a no name school then how do they have an agreement with the airlines. It says they have been in business for 16 years. Am I missing something?

P.S What school do you instruct at? let me check it out.

Pilotpip

The "agreement" they have, is an interview with 1000 hours total. This is the minimum at a vast majority of regionals. The agreement really is smoke and mirrors in my mind. You're not getting any advantage other than getting to meet the HR department with the same times that many others will have. Scab list or not, their pay scale is pathetic for what they're flying. Hulas is using them to get around scope with American and as leverage against ALPA. When he gets what he wants out of ALPA, he'll go over to GOJets and start screwing over the Teamsters pilots there even more. There are many other airlines out there that are much better that you will be competative at with 1000 hours total. I'd suggest reading the threads on the regionals page for more about them. I'm not bashing anybody who goes there becuase I have friends there. I will say that I wouldn't work for them, or TSA.

As for Langa, I found out a friend from highschool is going throught the program. He likes it, says the instruction is good. They have been in business for 16 years, but I don't believe they've been a flight school for all 16years. They're in their own little world up there and we really don't hear much about them. I don't have students coming to us like I do from other schools and as a result I don't hear much about them. They keep to themselves. After I graduated I called the local flight schools about doing my CFI. I called Langa and the school I'm now working at. Langa never bothered calling me back so I didn't give them the time of day.

I'll stick with my stay at home comment. If you're looking for the fastest and best training you can get, go to your local flight school and find an experienced instructor that has a good reputation. The money you save by not relocating, finding a new job, paying rent, and everything else will mean that you fly more, get through your ratings faster, and you'll likely have a job there by the time you get your CFI regardless of a guarantee.

WyoRunner8

got girlfriend issues...have to train in St. Louis