Hey Guys,
I started out with one of those little black ASA logbooks about 5 years ago and about half way through I decided to get a larger one (mistake now that I look back on it) but I want to make everything into 1 now by getting a "master logbook" and putting the time from each of the 2 into 1. Im just weary about rules pertaining to the signatures and endorsements I have in the other 2. Would I need to keep the other 2 with me at all time?

Thanks

 

Unless you are a student pilot, you never need to keep any logbook with you ever. However, you should keep record of your signatures and endorsements.

IMO, if you really wanted a "Master logbook" go the electronic route. There really no reason at all for you to copy your old logbook into another paper logbook. Seems like a gigantic waste of time that could be spent entering info into an electronic logbook. Electronic logbooks make filling out applications a LOT easier and there's no chance of math errors. Need your logbook? Just print it out! If anyone wants to see your signatures, just hand them the lil guy logbook.

 

This is great advice. I have my paper logbook that I fill out and then I back everything up on an electronic logbook. The electronic logbook helps a lot when filling out those annoying 8710s!

When you say that you "should keep record of your signatures and endorsements," what exactly do you mean by that? Do you mean you should keep a record of it other than in your logbook? Or do you mean photocopy them and carry them with you (for example, carry a copy of your T/W endorsement if you are flying a tailwheel?).

 

I mean that you should keep record of everything required by the regs. My understanding is that if you receive dual, a CFI signature should be included. In addition to that, certain types of flying require an endorsement. You need to keep these signatures and endorsements somewhere. All that means is that it should be recorded somewhere....anywhere. Copies are nice, but not necessary.

You should carry NOTHING with you if you are at least a PVT. The FAA does not require you to carry it, so why give a fed the chance to go through your logbook during a ramp check? Just because you are flying a tailwheel, does not mean the regs require a tailwheel endorsement to be carried with you. It just requires that you receive one. If its in a ziplock in your freezer or in a safety deposit box in another state, doesn't matter. If the feds or an employer want to see your logbooks, you have time to prove your training, it does not have to be on the spot.

 

I have a silly question: Why?

Citation32 – why would you want to rewrite your logbooks? Unless they were stolen or destroyed and you needed to recreate something, why even go through the exercise that results in nothing more than a logbook that ends up looking like it was all written up at one time and will probably end up missing required endorsements (like those for every minute of dual received - see 61.51(h) -IOW, a logbook that looks fake.

If the purpose is to organize things neatly, take 250's advice and go electronic.

ufgator - are you thinking that you need to carry your logbook when you fly? If so why do you think so? There are, I think, three situations in which a pilot is required to carry a logbook - a student pilot on solo cross country; a recreational pilot on certain flights; and a sport pilot to show his aircraft privileges.

I'm asking why because I recall the rules being made very clear to me early on. I seem to recall some drawing of someone trying to stick huge logs through the door of a small airplane with big letters across the pages saying "NO LOGS."

 

I've have two logbooks. The one I started out with a long, long time ago (which I outgrew) and my professional one. At some point I stopped writing in the small one and started writing in the bigger one.

When I interviewed at TransStates, ExpressJet, and SkyWest (where I've been for six years now), I took both logbooks to the interviews.

TransStates was interested in my endorsements but the other two weren't, but they all looked through my logbooks.

I always did my best to keep them accurate and that was the best I could do. Nobody is going to go back through them with a fine tooth comb. It is on the honor system.

A couple years ago though I started using an electronic logbook, Logbook Pro Pilot, and I spend maybe five minutes on it a month. I just download my flight schedule from SkyWest and upload it into Logbook Pro Pilot, but it is just as easy to enter it by hand. If I was interested it would track my landings, night time, instrument time, etc., but I'm not that interested in it anymore.

How much time you want spend on you logbook is up to you.

As for interviews and job searching, keep it professional but it doesn't have all be in ONE logbook. You have better things to do with your time...like fly!

Regards,

Jeffrey