Search
Notices
Flight Schools and Training Ratings, building hours, airmanship, CFI topics

Pan Am?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-12-2009, 03:25 PM
  #1  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 25
Default Pan Am?

I am considering attending Pan Am in Miami for the Career Pilot Program. The one that is almost $50k. I am 31 and would like to spend 6 months flying and that's it. I'm over wasting my time doing what I am doing now when all I have ever really wanted to do is fly.

Can anyone who knows give me positives and negatives to the Pan Am flight academy in Miami??

Thanks very much!
nater1978 is offline  
Old 08-12-2009, 03:46 PM
  #2  
alchemist
 
meeko031's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,089
Default

Originally Posted by nater1978 View Post
I I am 31 and would like to spend 6 months flying and that's it. I'm over wasting my time
Thanks very much!

Negative,
you'll be dissappointed when you realize you cannot find a job after with only six months worth of "flying experience"

Positive,
You're not in a $50k hole yet.....
meeko031 is offline  
Old 08-12-2009, 03:52 PM
  #3  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 25
Default

Originally Posted by meeko031 View Post
Negative,
you'll be dissappointed when you realize you cannot find a job after with only six months worth of "flying experience"

Positive,
You're not in a $50k hole yet.....
I understand I won't be flying after six months of experience. Do you have any opinion on Pan Am flight academy in particular?

Last edited by nater1978; 08-12-2009 at 03:54 PM. Reason: spelling
nater1978 is offline  
Old 08-12-2009, 03:53 PM
  #4  
First Rule of Fight Club
 
BoredwLife's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: My seat smells like cat pee
Posts: 1,536
Default

Originally Posted by nater1978 View Post
I am considering attending Pan Am in Miami for the Career Pilot Program. The one that is almost $50k. I am 31 and would like to spend 6 months flying and that's it. I'm over wasting my time doing what I am doing now when all I have ever really wanted to do is fly.

Can anyone who knows give me positives and negatives to the Pan Am flight academy in Miami??

Thanks very much!

NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER go to a program that requires that you put up all of the money up front. You need to pay as you go. IF they require full payment, RUN, don't walk away.
BoredwLife is offline  
Old 08-12-2009, 03:56 PM
  #5  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 25
Default

Originally Posted by BoredwLife View Post
NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER go to a program that requires that you put up all of the money up front. You need to pay as you go. IF they require full payment, RUN, don't walk away.
They want $2,500 to "reserve" seat. Half of the balance on the day you start and the other half two months into the program... What do you think of that? lol
nater1978 is offline  
Old 08-12-2009, 04:04 PM
  #6  
First Rule of Fight Club
 
BoredwLife's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: My seat smells like cat pee
Posts: 1,536
Default

Go another way. MANY programs like this have folded up shop overnight and skated away with millions in students money. Silver State Helicopters is one off the top of my head. If they go under they will take your cash and there is NOTHING you can do about it.

There are better ways to go bud.
BoredwLife is offline  
Old 08-12-2009, 04:06 PM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
250 or point 65's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 999
Default

Originally Posted by nater1978 View Post
I understand I won't be flying after six months of experience.
So then, what makes sense about dropping $50k to do it quickly and be unemployed when you get done? There is absolutely no rush to get through your flight training right now.

Do a search if you want to know about the program. Also, look on other forums. The general consensus is that the only people who think a program like that is worth the money are those trying to rationalize the fact that they spent all that money.
250 or point 65 is offline  
Old 08-12-2009, 04:14 PM
  #8  
Line Holder
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 25
Default

Originally Posted by 250 or point 65 View Post
So then, what makes sense about dropping $50k to do it quickly and be unemployed when you get done? There is absolutely no rush to get through your flight training right now.

Do a search if you want to know about the program. Also, look on other forums. The general consensus is that the only people who think a program like that is worth the money are those trying to rationalize the fact that they spent all that money.
cool... my thoughts were that it would at least get me in school where I could do it quickly and efficiently... living and learning everyday for the six months. Instead of doing it in patches and taking longer.
nater1978 is offline  
Old 08-12-2009, 04:48 PM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Left
Posts: 1,809
Default

People are going to beat you up on this due to some overall dislike to the "academy" type flight school that has been brewed up on this website.

Here's what I think. Pick a school based on what works for you. For some people that school is the "mom and pop" FBO, where there is no rush in finishing. Others enjoy the fast pased, fully immersive learning that is usually offered at a larger academy. There are pro's and con's to each approach. the major con that most discuss here is the higher cost of bigger schools. You seem to know already that you aren't going to get a job right after finishing your training, so if you are comfortable with the cost.....go for it!

try to take any advice from this forum, including my own with a grain of salt. there are lots on here with a sour taste in their mouths about big schools because they produce "300 hour wonders" and "bring down the industry"(alot of times coming from someone who "payed their dues" with 700 dual given). That may or may not be true. anyway, shop around, find somewhere you like and dig in. However, Be sure you know what you're getting yourself into, I know my short stay in the industry has not been all I had wished for.

Last, the above post about upfront paying is spot on! DO NOT pay everything upfront. Pay as you go, or perhaps by course, but not all at once at the beginning.
pagey is offline  
Old 08-12-2009, 05:08 PM
  #10  
APC co-founder
 
HSLD's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2005
Position: B777
Posts: 5,853
Default

Originally Posted by nater1978 View Post
cool... my thoughts were that it would at least get me in school where I could do it quickly and efficiently... living and learning everyday for the six months. Instead of doing it in patches and taking longer.
If you simply want to learn to fly and have the money go for it, just be aware there are much less expensive routes that produce as good or better results.

If you want to learn to fly with aspirations working as a professional pilot then you REALLY need to examine the industry right now.
  • Airlines are shrinking, not growing.
  • There are thousands and thousands of furloughed, qualified pilots.
  • There is pending legislation that will significantly increase entry level qualifications.
I don't think anyone will criticize you for wanting to learn how to fly, however, if the short term goal is to work for the airlines your timing is beyond horrible.
HSLD is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DYNASTY HVY
Hangar Talk
12
05-27-2009 07:25 AM
Murano
Major
85
04-09-2009 05:29 PM
DYNASTY HVY
Hangar Talk
0
04-04-2009 05:37 PM
flaps 9
Major
14
04-02-2009 07:33 AM
snippercr
Flight Schools and Training
1
10-20-2008 07:40 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices